Sony to use Nvidia Tegra for PSP2; explains delay

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no it's still @ 550

On Nvidia forums =/= "straight from Nvidia". Anyone can post there.

Doing a few searches, it looks pretty even split between 550 and 500MHz. The 550 number was posted first but then it was news that it was downclocked to 500. I haven't seen technical evidence either way; spec sheets don't count as they could be pre-downclock.

since the spec's were finalized on the 90 nm scale as 550 Mhz,the PS3's production when it's finalized is and was 550 Mhz. that rumor that the clock speed was reduced to 500 Mhz was just that a rumor. while Nvidia has alway's stated it wasat 550 Mhz. Nvidia publicaly stated it was @ 550 Mhz

It wasn't a rumor, Sony said it themselves (albeit 'privately' to development partners) around TGS 2006 and Game Watch leaked the story (which western media basically ignored in favor of old spec sheets).  VRAM speed also got a downclock from 700 MHz to 650 MHz and there may have also been a reduction in pixel shaders (from 32 to 24).  Neither Sony nor Nvidia made any direct statements after the TGS leak afaik?

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20060925/3d_tgs.htm

no that's in ref. to the dev. kit..not the PS3

the dev. kit's GPU was 500 MHz!

That... doesn't actually make sense.  You can't have a slower clocked devkit (especially with memory speeds).  If anything, most devkits actually use upclocked RAM (and more of it) for prototyping.

remember at the time very few dev. kit's were released at that time because sony was not able to ramp up production of more kit's at the time.

28 pixel shaders (4 redundant, 24 active) at 550Mhz

also: you can use a slightly slower GPU to make game's just as you can with a faster speed GPU..remember the processor in the PSP mip's were released @222 Mhz, but they were 333MHz cores?

so developer's could use the faster speed, but it was not until later ! developer's programmed as if the PSP was at 222 MHz for their game's even though the PSP's 2 processor's were clocked @ 333 MHz

Okay, I replied before your edit.

1) The Game Watch article in question actually doesn't refer to devkits.  It actually specifies the RSX/VRAM was downclocked, even machine translated it's pretty clear.

2) Your PSP comparison is entirely incompatible.  The PSP spec was actually downlocked it's first few years, for battery drain preservation.  That had zero to do with it's devkit, which was clocked identically.

and you know how well interviews in japan never get missed quoted at all right..?

here let me show you something even though you will ignore it:

also:

Wow! Someone at B3D speculates RSX might be at 500 Mhz but Nvidia already stated the Clock rate at production was 550 Mhz but forum goer's speculate a drop in MHz but you take a forum's word over the company that built's the chip..gotcha

How can I ignore something that isn't there?  Wait, oh, you crafty minx you! ;)

Assuming mistranslation, like assuming a reference to a devkit, is still assumption.  Stop assuming and bring something more legitimate to the table.

Also, did you actually read the B3D thread?  There wasn't speculation, there was a confirmed dev leak for 500MHz/650MHz, with Sony apologists/fanboys throwing up so much outdated sourcing in response a moderator had to step in and shut down any RSX clockspeed discourse (taking the Sonyboys to task at the same time).

no it was not:

Nothing official at all. This rumor started from speculation at Beyond3d. Where it was caught by TeamXbox 360 which then fed into other sites. On the same web site you can see other types of speculation. Also there were articles lately that even developers don't know the final RSX specs (thats why one developer was not developing a game). So again speculation and nothing offical.

even answer's.com list the PS3's GPU @550 Mhz

http://www.answers.com/topic/playstation-1