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TheRealMafoo on 16 July 2010
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nitekrawler1285 said:
TheRealMafoo said:

Well, it's been a few months since I posted. I took a trip to New Zealand looking for a new home. I found it just north of Wellington, along the cost.

45 minute electric train ride into town and on an amazing beach, not bad at all.

Anyway, for those that know me (or don't know me), the reason I am leaving the US, is it's broken and can't be fixed. I am a problem solver at heart. I worked in a think tank for the US military for 7 years, with the sole purpose of solving technical problems that the rest of the organization I worked for could not. So it's just something I naturally do.

About 3 years ago I started looking into the problem of the US decline. Trying to figure it out. I finally did. The real problem with America, is the mindset of the it's people. I asked this simple question on many forums, including this one:

If you could rate human quality of life on a scale of 1 to 100. 1 being the worst, and 100 being the best, would you rather live in a world where the best was 100, and the worst was 60, or the best was 45 and the worst was 40?

Shockingly, more people picked the second option. People care less about there absolute position in life, and care more about there relative postion compared to everyone else. This then justifies the redistribution of wealth, and the root of our problems. The wrong people are not in office. They are the people a majority want ruling, and are doing what a majority of the people want them to do.

All the polls showing unhappiness are more upset that these philosophies are not working. No one is upset that we steal from the rich. They are just upset with the results of such actions. When you steal from the rich, everyone losses. What's happening is exactly what I have predicted will happen (along with every other economic conservative). Next year, we are going to start stealing a lot more from the rich, and thus the consequences we see from those actions will continue to grow. We are heading into a deeper depression, and our leaders are sending us there. They are sending us there by doing what a majority of the voters want them to do. We are moving more from the first option of my question, to the second. We are doing so, because we are getting exactly what we as a people think we want.

 

To fix the problem of a failing US government, you first have to fix the mindset of the people electing our leaders. Sadly, this takes at least a generation of time to do, and I don't wish to wait that long. Plus, I don't think the US will survive that long, at least not as the US I grew up in. 

So, time for me to leave. New Zealand was everything I imagined and more. We are on a plan to move in the summer of 2011. First and formost, is we have to sell our house. Not the best time to be selling it, but we will do what we can.

Take care everyone :)


I think that without people who believe as you do that America's chances to change attitudes is even less likely.  Without role models who exemplify said beliefs and behaviors where will they even get the idea that such a change is possible let alone plausible?

By being an active and visible you have far more opportunity to change things than you do by leaving.  People are always astounded to find out that I'm gay simply because I don't fit the perceived stereotypes.  Simply by being an active and visible member of my community I have managed to change many negative attitudes.  Not only about homosexuality but African Americans and other attitudes as well.  People often don't understand how the world can be different from what they assume it is until they perceive that change. 

If nothing else I might ask a little patriotism of you and say that the community that grew you and allowed you to foster your beliefs and ideals might be worth sticking around to support in it's darkest hours.

Either way I wish you the best of luck.

Thanks for the pep talk, but I have been on this site (and in my community) for years talking about this, and I don't think I have changed more then a handfull of peoples minds. I live in a small midwestern town, and they are very much like minded thinkers. Not much local I need to do to keep the spirit around here.

Not that I think anything that's going to happen is remotely this bad as what happened in Germany in the 1930's, but I am sure there are some percentage of Jews that wanted to leave in the late 1920's, but didn't because they loved there country so much, so they chose to stay and try and make it a better place.

If I was living in NZ and the US was attacked by, say, China, and the US needed able bodies to fight, I would go back and fight for the US, but I am not going to stick around and watch my own country destroy itself.

Good to hear you have been successful at improving your community. The difference with your situation and this one, is you don't see every media outlet, and people in political power telling your community that being gay is bad, any the only people who are pro gay are evil. The people around you just don't know any better, and all you have to do is educate them on the truth. I have to contradict the White House,  Congress, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, the New York Time, and the movie industry. How am I to compete with that?