kowenicki said:
Akvod said:
I think the OP's point is that Wii's big games are like Tetris. Simple, accessible, but complex, challenging and different each play through.
The OP isn't downplaying motion control's impact on the Wii. If you guys think he is, it's precisely because you had the misconception that Microsoft had, that motion control WAS EVERYTHING. That is the point of the OP. Motion controls helped the Wii a lot, and it helps make the games more like Tetris, intuitive and simple (it's very intuitive to swing a controller like a racket, than press a button and remember to do that, in conjunction with other moves and buttons, all with a controller you never used before).
However, while the motion controls helped, without the gameplay that was designed with effort and rigor, it would have been meaningless.
Nintendo's designers wanted to create a game that was accessible, simple, complex, challenging, and unique, and used their resources to achieve that.
Microsoft wanted to create a motion control game, and used resources to simply create that, without anything else in mind.
I don't really care about motion controls, but you guys are so fucking thick headed, and making me feel more depressed about the world =/
I think it's pretty simple what he's saying.
Now, I'm going to play Bad Company 2 with my good ole Dualshock.
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Quite a few contradicitons in this post. I ask you then... WITHOUT motion controls would the wii have been successful, would Wii sports be as popular? we will never know... but my bet is nowehere near.
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But that's why I said you guys are on two different starting points.
He's not downplaying it from his perspective, because he didn't think motion controllers was the only contributor to Wii's success, while you do.
In simpler terms:
OP) Motion control not absolutely crucial
You) Motion control was everything
IDC about what you think, or really what the OP thinks. It just pisses me off that people can't even fucking read a post and understand what the argument was stated, before they refute it.
Don't debate with me, I like to play my games with controllers, and thought that Wii sports was old fast. But now you know what the OP's arguments are, so go fucking nuts man.