War on Terrorism is just another Capitalism versus Socialism war.

[Mr Khan]

HappySqurriel said:

TheRealMafoo said:

Final-Fan said:

Afghanistan will not be permanently pacified by external force, we have to either get them to police themselves or just give up on trying to civilize the place. 

Afghanistan is a collection of tribes, each tribe ruller of it's own land. If you want to "win" in there, you first have to look at it for what it is. 100 different wars.

There is only one way to win there (extreme violence), and we are not willing to take those steps, so we should get out now.

While I am fully willing to admit that I may have been misinformed, I thought that the war in Afghanistan was predominantly NATO forces against (so-called) insurgents who are not from Afghanistan. Essentially, that the forces in Afghanistan were mostly imported from Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia, and they were there to fight against the "Americans" not to fight for Afghanistan.

Many Afghan insurgents may come from Pakistan, but only because they are coming from the same ethnic group that lives across the border. The Taliban is almost entirely Pashtun, and Pashtun live in Pakistan too. The opposition to the Taliban is mostly non-Pashtun (mostly Tajik, some Uzbek, Hazara, Turkmen, Baluch, and others). The number of non-Pashtun Islamist militant fighters (i.e. Arabs, Punjabis, or Chechens) is very, very small, and overrepresented.

 

Primarily its an ethnic conflict, as many things are boiled down to. Afghanistan is one of those countries that really shouldn't exist, like most of Africa, Iraq, or Belgium