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twesterm on 14 July 2010
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Wagram said:
selnor said:
Wagram said:
selnor said:

What? 220,000 is shocking. IMO, I'm shocked SE are bothering to bring another FFMMO to console especially when on PS brand name it sold worse in a much longer Lifetime period.


Your shocked? Final Fantasy XI has made more money and revenue for Square than ANY Final Fantasy game.

Why would you be shocked?

Yeah the PC version. 

I said I was shocked they were bothering with another console version. After 6 years on PS2 it has managed 150,000 copies sold. And 4 and a hlaf years on 360 it managed 220,000. What are SE thinking wasting time and money on another console version?

Lets look at this: 

SE want M$ to change there policy for 200,000 players over a 4 year period?

In business terms SE would be laughed out of the door. 

Going by PS players, on PS3 it looks destined to sell barely 200,000 over 6 years.


200,000 people at a 12.95 subscription = 2.59M a MONTH

31.08M a YEAR

I would hardly call that bad.

The problem with that is:

  • You're assuming that everyone who picked up the game stuck with it.
  • You're assuming that everyone who bought it on console didn't already have it on PC.
  • You're assuming there's no overhead.

    • First off, I would be willing to bet that a lot of people who bought FFXI on the consoles thought it was just another Final Fantasy.  Even if they knew it was an MMO, FFXI is not an easy game.  If you're not dedicated you will fail.  Also, if you don't have millions of gil and the best equipment, nobody will give you the time of day after level 25 (and that's assuming they even get that far!).  I love FFXI, but it isn't a new user friendly game at all.  If someone picked up the game for the first time any time after 2006, I would be willing to bet they didn't stick with it for longer than a year.

    Of the people that I've met that use console, I'd say about 3/4 of the them have the game on the PC too.  I know that's all just speculation and my own experiences, but in the rare event I do find someone playing on the console, that's usually the case.

    Finally, even ignoring the above two things, 38 million a year may sound like a lot but MMO's burn through money like mad.  Even a small MMO like FFXI has A MASSIVE upkeep that is probably more than 38 million yearly.

    Don't get me wrong, I love FFXI and I assume FFXIV is going to be just as successful, but this is going to be marketed as a PC game.  Sony will market the game for themselves because they can, but as far as SE is concerned, this is a PC game first and foremost.  I'm not saying the PS3 version is a waste of time and it will do them some good, but the support for this game will be on the PC.