| mrstickball said: @Kasz - My dad drove truck during the 90's at almost every major GM plant in America (and I went with him quite a bit, too)...I totally agree with your assessment, because my dad has about a million union horror stories of atrocious workers in GM, and other union plants. Unions can be great things...If they are run properly - most American trade unions (like carpenters) do a pretty good job. However, the industrial unions....Are horrible. |
Yeah, I mean... the retirement packages and stuff I think totally could of been paid for fine... had the unions been run right.
Also management though... it's not just the unions. Management was just dumb... I mean, i'd been there for a week and even I could tell what a bad part looks like. Anytime a worker tells a manager about a bad part though... they run them off anyway, put the dye in repairs and then ship them off to the "repairs department".
Which is one guy with a mallet... those parts NEVER see the light of day again. Best i can tell Michigan would tell which plants were the most effective by using the most parts stamped, and not actually the most parts useable or most parts shipped.
There were plenty of other dyes and jobs we could be running rather then the broken ones... but they wanna run them just to keep their numbers up... because lower level management can and does get fired a lot.
I mean... if you got the right union heads in and the right management in... they could be doing an amazing job... but instead they didn't... and everyone got bailed out. Not sure if it's better there or not now... I'll have to ask my Uncle next time I talk to them.
Largely I think the problem is that they don't have that much competition. There are only so many car manufacturers... and they were on top for so long... they got complacent.
Damn shame too... instead now everybody suffers.
