DirtyP2002 said:
Cross-X said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Cross-X said:

@GodofWar_3ever Technically, Gears of War, Alan Wake, Lost Odessey, Blue Dragon, Too Human aren't  1st or 2nd Party Exclusives. They're all 3rd Party. Microsoft doesn't own the Gears IP nor do they own Epic Games so they're 3rd Party, I dunno if MS owns Alan Wake IP but they don't own Remedy and Mistwalker isn't owned by MS either. They're all 3rd Party.

But must we really bring a list wars here?

NNN2 is a shit game so that's all there is to this thread. I don't think we need to get into arguments here...

They are 2nd party. The games itself are published by MS, but the devs are not owned by them. 

and DirtyP2002 started the list war...not me.

I thought if MS owns the IP but developed by a Studio not owned by them, that's 2nd Party (just like how Sucker Punch and Insomiac are 2nd Party). But I know that Gears of War is definitely 3rd Party.

Yeh I know you didn't start the list wars but I just don't want people gettin banned and shit for bringing up list wars and people arguing back. I just stay away from such trouble.


I thought when you MS is the publisher, it is second party. Like Remedy and Alan Wake. Remedy made the game, MS published it --> 2nd party. Same now with MS and Crytek.

At the end of the day, nobody actually cares about 1st / 2nd or 3rd party exclusives. The main point is that it is exclusive and not playable on any other console. That is all the customer cares for.

lol I don't really care either. If it's exclusive, great. Except nowadays people still try to think 3rd Party Exclusives will become nonexistant, which I find rubbish and just fanboyish logic.

And I know what you mean. Only people who come check the net/forums for games know what 1st/2nd/3rd Party exclusives are but the average gamer doesn't give a shit. Like if I ask my firends whether Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 are 1st Party or 3rd Party Exclusives, they have no idea what I'm talking about lol. All they know it's "Only on PlayStation" :D