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thismeintiel on 09 July 2010
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puffy said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Mummelmann said:

If so, Sony are more stupid that I thought. Here I was, thinking that perhaps this gen had taught them something.


how did this gen taught them anything about releasing late??????


lol, how, you ask?

Let me explain, please. Hear me out.

Last generation the Playstation brand was achieving new heights. The other consoles were piss drops in the bucket tha was the PS2. MS was just entering into the market, and Nintendo was seemingly on its way out of the home console busness.

Then MS decided to release its next console a year before the PS3.

Because of this, it garnered a lot of 3rd party supporters who were working on their console and only their console, because developers like to work on state of the art shit. They are techies after all and they like new stuff. They jumped on board.

Now the Playstation brand is at an all time low. Their consoles respectively are dead last, and  both have only relatively recently garnered widespread respect from the gaming community as valid core consoles. The PS3 particularly, was a running joke for its first 1.5 years on the market. The brand has turned from solid gold leading the videogame industry to a 3rd place brand in a 3 man race.

They permanently lost their dominance over America, and they will never get that back. For the forseeable future, they will stay third there. That happens to also be the location where most of the big money multiplats are produced, and the spot that most people worldwide target first for revenue.

THIS upcoming generation, they don't have the advantage of a superior brand, instead they have the gimp of an inferior brand in North America at least. If they launch late again, the brand name won't help them stage a late game face save like it's done this generation.

It would be vastly stupid not to at least lend some creedence to the theory that launching early helps, because it obviously does. That is a main reason it's been so doom and gloom for the PSP over the 3DS fiasco. The 3DS is supremely awesome, and it's getting a huge unfettered foothold in the next gen handheld market. There is no competition, and getting to the game late in busniess is not good.

Sony needs to realize the next gen does not start when they say it does. They need to react to competition, instead of expecting to win no matter what, and maybe they wouldn't always be losing to everyone lately, like Nintendo, Microsoft,  and Samsung.

That's kind of ridiculous.. To say Sony can never gain dominance in a region ever again? Here in Australia, the GameCube sold something ridiculous like less than 10% of the PS2 and yet Nintendo is now the dominant force once again. Nintendo didn't have the advantage of a superior brand either you know.

How about the thing that people seem to forget time and time again? PS3 and Wii both launched at the same time. Both Wii and PS3 were a year late. One became the market leader and one lost most of it's marketshare. Clearly being a year late has absolutely no effect on it's own. 

I still believe Nintendo are going to rape the others next gen but your arguments are weak.

Exactly right.  What hurt PS3 early on was its large entry price and few quality launch games, not a later launch.  All of Sony's consoles have come out later than at least one competitor.  And luckily, the last couple of years they have been able to change their situation and are doing a lot better.  I don't think they will make that mistake again next gen. 

Though, I do disagree with your Nintendo rapage comment.  Next gen, Sony is going to come in guns blazing.  Better graphics, lower entry price than this gen, quality line-up, and HD TV's and Blu-ray will have gained even more market share by then.   So, I think there's going to be a very interesting battle next gen.  Can't wait.