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Fumanchu said:
Seece said:
Fumanchu said:
kowenicki said:

so do MS figures.

tbh I think that probably helped the Sony numbers... could have been worse.


What else is lumped in with the Sony Networked Products and Services Division?

VAIO laptops? Walkmans? Anyone have their profit/loss figures pre-merge?

Anyway, the playstation business as a whole is still in the black when crediting the PS1 profits.  The failed MS tablet project and mobile 'kin' handsets might make the EDD look bad this quarter.

Barely, even with PS1 profits it's in the XXX figures, one more 600 mill loss from sony and the entire playstation division will be in the red. Meaning in 15 years years they'd have made nothing .... essentially.

It certainly doesn't look good after achieving such dominance.  I wonder if this will have any affect on their business strategy with the PS4 - it may not be another high-tech device sold at a loss.

I don't know how they could get away with selling PS4 at a loss tbh. We've seen Microsoft try to mimic Nintendo's business plan of late, and they have tried hard to make a profit this gen, so far they're doing well. By the end of next fiscal year they'll be in the black for the Xbox 360.

From that chart I got these figures

Since 360 R&D (July 1st 2005) started to today = $1.650 in losses (Billions)

Since PS3 R&D (April 1st 2006) started to today = $5.000 in losses (Billions)