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Khuutra said:
twesterm said:

Just because you don't like it or it's not the best doesn't mean it can't be the standard.  Often it is those things that exactly what something shouldn't be is the standard.  They've become so watered down and everyone knows them and they just become the standard.

For instance, what do you think when I saw musical, Broadway show, or even opera?

Was it Phantom of the Opera or any other Andrew Lloyd Webber show?  I wouldn't be surprised since most people think that or Cats or Jesus Christ Superstar.  The funny thing about that is that almost everyone that actually likes Broadway shows despises Andrew Lloyd Webber and everything he is.

Whatever the case and however much they despise them, stuff like Phantom of the Opera has become the musical standard even though it clearly aren't the best or even close to it.  The same goes for Final Fantasy.

That is not what "standard" means.

And I think of Dungeons and Dragons, like any decent, God-fearing nerd.

Different definitions of the same word. 

When I hear someone say standard, I think of the thing that most people think of.  In the case of RPG's video games, I think Final Fantasy.  When I think role playing games, I think DnD.

By the way, completely random questions-- is there a magic item in 4th that lets you communicate between long distances?  I remember there were rings in 3rd that let you do that but I can't seem to find them in 4th.