Scoobes said:
jarrod said:
Scoobes said:
As for Gran Turismo, can you name me another racing simulation that made it mainstream before Gran Turismo? Console games before were more arcade titles.
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afaik, Indy 500 from Papyrus was the first real big hit sim racer, and sold over a million copies. Compared to modern PC sims like iRacing or GTR, Gran Turismo basically is an arcade game.
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Your missing the console bit. I deliberately avoided PC racers because if we include PC in this discussion then PC will have done virtually everything before consoles.
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Seems a useless distinction. Console FPS didn't hit it really big until Goldeneye or Halo, that doesn't change the fact that Doom was really the genre landmark.