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puffy said:
Killiana1a said:
Lastgengamer said:

Bold words from Sony especially when it was Nintendo that saved the gaming industry from collapse and kept this form of entrainment around.

While Sony did expand the industry which was good thing for us gamers. I'd say it was Atari and Nintendo that really deserve all the credit for legitimizing video games as entertainment since they were the ones that made games mainstream in the first place

I still do not believe video gaming is mainstream in the same way basketball, US football, baseball, and other sports are mainstream and encouraged from parent to child. Video games, minus a few blockbuster titles on the Wii, are a sedentary activity that will lead to a loss of self esteem due to the weight gain and lack of social interaction if substituted for little league baseball or another sport during a child's early years.

I would encourage and love it if my child came home from school and wanted to play outside practicing his/her sport until bed time. I would discourage my child from coming home and plopping himself down playing video games until bed time.

First, if my child finds he is talented at a sport and has a shot professionally, then he/she can support me with a million plus dollar home when they make it pro. If not, at least I have a reason to get shitfaced in the bleachers after work and my child's sports achievments to brag about during barbecues.

Second, sports teach a lot of values to children including discipline, team-work, respect of the rules by which the game is played, and on. Video games as a primary solitary activity don't teach much unless we are talking what many call those "casual" Nintendo games on the DS and Wii.

Third, participation in sports leads to a higher self esteem overall than videogaming. Sports requires a child to be in physical shape, teaches them about group interaction, and teaches them proper social interaction without threatening to "turn on my hack" or scream at another person via headset things they would never have the balls to say to that person face-to-face.

Finally, participation in sports is respected, while video gaming is still carrying the stereotype of the "live with mom, basement dwelling, acne filled face, fat ass" stereotype of hardcore gamers. Case in point, do we look at those top MLG gamers the same way we do a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and on? No, most of us including myself are unaware of God like, Michael Jordan type gamers. There are none. What MLG has are teams who do well at specific games, while there is no individual who is the best at all games or a dominator in a certain genre.


You don't understand the meaning of 'mainstream entertainment'

TV, Movies, Books etc are all mainstream entertainment and many of the arguments you present against gaming can be made against these forms of entertainment too. 

I think of mainstream in terms of what is more apparent to the non video game consumer and the level of social acceptability.

There is no ESPN for video games making video games not transparent for the non video game consumer.

Video games are nowhere near the social acceptability as sports or other forms of physical recreation.

They may be mainstream in terms of sheer sales numbers and dollars spent, but if you ask non-gamers who do outnumber gamers what they think of video games, then you will get a range of opinions from ignorance to firm opinions of I find them okay, they suck, video games are for nerds and on.

Mainstream is more than dollars.