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twistedcellz said:
Jirakon said:

If you believe humans could live up to 930 years in the past then you are a blind follower.  The life expectancy has only risen with technology/medicine.  Humans could barely get past age of 20 in the early days.

Technology/medicine wasn't needed before "the early days". As the human genome (and behavior) got more and more corrupted, life expectancy dropped dramatically. As technology/medicine arose to combat this, life expectancy went up. Is it really that hard to comprehend?

Im not goona start a thread about that tho, but just to say that to believe in the bible is believe in somethin some other humans wrote without you even been there to know if its true.(no facts)

I can't be sure, but I think you're trying to insinuate that there isn't much evidence for the truth of the Bible, which is an overwhelmingly false statement. There's plenty of evidence from manuscripts, archaelogicy, prophecy, science, history, statistics, and many other fields. A quick search can show you everything you need to know, and there are hundreds of books that go into detail. Here's a quick link with just a small portion of the vast amount of evidence:

http://www.faithfacts.org/search-for-truth/maps/manuscript-evidence

that link was interesting but

 I meant that people can have faith but its wrong to believe in the bible when alot of the things in it seems implausible and some more plausible. So how can you believe in just a half of it? When peoples dont have any answers for things they try to invent one,thats my point of view of the bible.

You can correct me if Im wrong but in the viking era, Norway and Sweden peoples used to believe in what we call now the Norse mythology but then got converted into believing in the Christ. But why would it be more right to believe in Jesus Christ than to believe in Loki when you never seen any proof of both.

Moses story in the bible is even less plausible than the Valkyries of the Norse and why would be wrong to believe in Valhalla,Odin,Brynhildr or Ragnarok but is right to believe in Heaven,God,Jesus Christ and the Apocalypse.

I bet no one is gonna try to argue that to believe in the Bible is about the same as to believe in a myth.


I know a lot about Vikings because I have some of their blood in me (and I have read some decent books about them).  Anyways, Vikings mainly converted to Christianity for business/status purposes (later generations had more faith in Christianity).  It wasn't like they truly believed it was just good business (they still performed some Viking rituals/weird acts even after they said they were converted (like killing a bunch of enemies for a wedding or festival).  Sure they raided but after the raiding period a lot of them started moving permanently to areas.  Some moved to Russia and where called Rus hence the name Russia (they helped clear water trade routes in Russia from barbarians), other settled elsewhere in Europe.  One famous settlement was Rollo and his band settled in Normandy, France.  When a Frank came and asked them who their king was he got this in reply, We have no king we are all equal.  That is where the all men are created equal started from (this is from wikipedia "In 885, Rollo was one of the lesser leaders of the Viking fleet which besieged Paris under Sigfred second official king of the Danes. Legend has it that an emissary was sent by the king to find the chieftain and negotiate terms. When he asked for this information, the Vikings replied that they were all chieftains in their own right").  Eventually, the settled Vikings became more and more like their once adversaries and integrated into European society.  Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday are all named after Viking gods.  Vikings have contributed a lot more to modern day society (thought, reasoning, trade) than the church led Europeans of the Middle Ages.  My favorite saying comes from Eric the Red whose son was Leif Erikson.  He said that the worse/darkest day in Greenland's history was the day the missionaries came.  His wife was Christian and when she wanted a church he threw a rock as far as he could from his house and where it landed he allowed the church to be built there.