Slimebeast said:
ManusJustus said:
Slimebeast said:
ManusJustus said:
Concerning the mystery of human morals, other animals like monkeys and lions live in groups and don't kill or harm each other (atleast not anymore than moral man). If large groups of monkeys can live peacefully while sharing food, grooming each other, and having recreational sex, then it doesn't seem like rational man has much to brag about.
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My short objection on your reply: morals =/= behaviour based on instinct.
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Please explain. Even in vastly different cultural groups, humans have similar group behaivors. Its wrong to kill for Aborigine Australians just as it is for Western Europeans (with some differening justifications each make ofcourse). How can you consider this behaivor an instinct for humans but not for monkeys?
In fact, monkeys and humans have a lot of 'morals' in common. They share resources (food and tools) and do not kill others in their group, but they go to war with other groups for land and resources. Not much different than what humans do.
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Your examples of social communities (like apes) that work well together for the best of their survival though social interactions, have their behaviour and rules based purely on instincts.
But the rules and behaviour in human societies are not only based on instincts. They are also based on morals, which requires intellectual thinking and decisions and is something entirely different than genetically programmed instincts.
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Humans work well together for the best of their survival through social interaction as well.
You can't argue that there is a gentically programmed instinct that causes a monkey to share his rock hammer and anvil with another monkey when asked. If you do argue that this is an instinct, then you can't argue that everything humans don't act by instinct.
Here's a video showing human behaivors of sharing and jealousy in monkeys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAFQ5kUHPkY Heck, that first monkey has more 'morals' than many humans...