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richardhutnik on 27 June 2010
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IvorEvilen said:
richardhutnik said:

It is increasingly NOT about Christianity, and there is an excess amount of issues that need to be laid out, in order to answer the question about what involves the Christian faith.  What I saw in this thread is a mix of ridicule of the Christian faith, and individuals on the evangelical side, who want to try to convert people to be Christians in it. 

I will also say, if I am one of the top people to get into the Christian faith on here, this thread has problems.  For answers to the Christian faith, it is a lot better to go elsewhere on the web for that, and ask people who know more.

I agree with the above post... although there will always be different interpretations and beliefs, even among experts.

I will say this though: 

Believing that being a good person and doing the right thing will eventually get you into heaven is a dark road.  You have to truly believe that Jesus died for everyone, because he loves us all, and only through his blood are we saved.  If you really believe in Him, then you will want to do good things.

I can't remember who brought it up, but someone said something about how Christianity goes against their personal values...  Those would be "worldly" values in the eyes of a Christian, lies created by Satan to trick you into not believing the Truth.  Believe what you will, my job as a Christian is to spread the Truth to those who will listen, not to "convert" people to Christianity.  No Christian is called to actually convert people, they are called to spread the Truth.  This reality has been twisted by so many... and many feel that they must make others be Christian to get to heaven, and this is simply false.  You speak the Truth so that as many people as possible have a chance to hear it and in fear of the lives of those who have not accepted it.  In the end though... it is a choice made by every individual person:  to listen or ignore.

The job of a Christian is to be a disciple of Christ, and do what Christ says.  This includings being a workmanship, created in Christ Jesus, for works prepared ahead of time.   This is on a personal level.  There is also the job of the Church collectively, to do things.  I could go into a multitude of scriptures that can show that it isn't the job of EVERY Christian to always open their mouths and "share the gospel".  Christians are called to live the live and be examples, act as salt and light.  You can make yourself a quiet witness.  Of course, individuals of the Evangelical camp believe it is the job of every Christian to "witness" to others, rather than bear the witness to the truth.  A key to being a witness is that you actually experience what you talk about, and then give testimony IN THE RIGHT CONTEXT.

As far as what you believe has been twisted, it is a dicotomy set up in Evangelical theology that makes life more simple than it really is.

Consider this video, "Seen and Not Heard" by Petra:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZUdLCE6EIg

 

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As far as faith goes, I believe the faith that matters is one of trust, more than intellectual affirmation.  To trust counts, while understanding people can do and still it make no difference.