Jordahn said:
sapphi_snake said:
Spare me with the "true" christian argument. If they beleived in Christ they were "true" christians. They may have been oppressed for 300 years, but christians still oppress people even today.
And honestly I really don't think that any christian ever spoke up , for example, on behalf of the oppressed indigenous tribes in central and South America who were tortured and forced to give up their religion and convert to Christianity, not because they didn't have the courage but because they thought that those pesky pagans were getting what they deserved. Actually I believe that Europeans considered it perfectly legal and justifiable to murder a non-christian back then, so I don't think most of them found anything wrong with oppressing others as long as they themselves were not oppressed. True hypocrisy.
And there's nothing unique about christianity. It spread through violence and foreced indoctrination like any other popular religion. Good thing Chinese commies keep religious extremists at bay. One of the only good things about that regime.
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People need to underatnd that violence and forced indoctrination is NOT Christianity. Christians and so-called Christians as just as imperfect as non-Christians. Everyone by nautre is a hypocrite. So because Christians are just as imperfect as anyone else doesn't invalidate the awesomeness of God. In religion it's your works and good deeds that "save" you. In Christianity, it's what's already been done by the Savior. I know I'm going to heaven because Jesus is my savior, and I thankful of the great things he has done in my life. Since it's so awesome, why would I not want everyone else to experience the same thing? As I mentioned in a previous post, I do good work as a witness because I am saved, not to be save because I already am. There are "bad" Christians out there that tarnishes the image of what Christianity should be. Just because a relatively few people are the bad apples in the group doesn't mean the whole group should be categorized as such. This applies to all groups. No exceptions.
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[ 13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.]
