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Funtime said:

Simple math would dictate that Halo Reach will outsell GT 5 by a fairly large margin barring GT5 getting bundled at some point.

Halo 2 sold 8 million on an install base of 25 million. GT4 sold 14 or so million on an install base of 130 million (roughly).

Halo 3 sold almost 11 million and it launched to an install base of around 18-20 million.

With the current hardware numbers for Sony and MS I don't see how GT has any shot at beating Halo this gen....unless of course it gets bundled.

Or I could use simple math to prove GT5 will sell incredibly.  These are all shipped numbers, BTW.  GT4P sold 1.35 mil units.  Of course, it didn't release here in America.  But, if we add the 1.12 mil that GT5P sold in America that ends up being 2.47 mil GT4P may have sold.  That's only 51% of GT5P's 4.84 mil sold.  So if we apply this calculation to GT4's final sales, 11.05 mil, we can see that GT5 should sell 21.67 mil.  Of course this is just playing with numbers to get a positive result.  Just like some play with the numbers to get a negative result.  And I don't think GT5 will sell even 20 mil.  Most likely 11-14 mil.

For people arguing based on install bases, has this gen (or even last gen) taught you anything?  Install base really means little other than setting a maxium sale barrier, one that is never reached.  I mean if install base alone meant more sales, than no game on the Wii should have a problem hitting 1-2 mil units sold.