johnsobas said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
johnsobas said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
johnsobas said:
Joelcool7 said:
I remember during the GameCube era lots of people said that Sony was going to kill Nintendo. Today Nintendo doesn't even consider Sony its primary competition instead naming Apple its new competitor. So if the PS2 couldn't kill Sony infact Nintendo turned the largest profit out of the three during the GCN era I believe. So with PSP dead in the water to DS and 3DS on its way Sony seems to have thrown in the towel for the handheld market.
Could anyone really bring down Nintendo now, what are they worth like 8-billion by now. Even if they managed to loose like 3-generations in a row at Microsoft or Sega's losses 500-mill a generation, then it would take 16-generations to kill Nintendo.
I think Nintendo is invincible they are the greatest game company on earth as shown by this weeks E3. Could anybody ever truly take on Nintendo? Can anyone even call themselves a worthy competitor of Nintendo. I mean seriously while Sony looses money on every unit sold and so does Microsoft usually for years after their consoles hit the market Nintendo has never lost a dime on their hardware.
Can anyone compete with Nintendo and actually give them a run for their money or will Nintendo be around 300-years from now?
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no way, even in the gamecube gen you are talking about Nintendo made more profit than Sony in games. The gamecube was sold at a profit, it sold lots of 1st party software, GBA and DS made tons of money, and Sony's strategy with the PS2 was not as good as the PS1. Sony WAS making Nintendo like profits in the PS1 gen when their strategy was not be the most powerful and not to be a loss leader.
As long as Nintendo has their core base they can never be defeated. First party titles alone asure this, and with the sales they get from the 1st party sales they will get a bunch of multiplat titles as well. For Sony to beat Nintendo they would have to make such good software that people didn't care about Nintendo's first party titles.
Nintendo has such a huge war chest they can afford to have a few bad gens as well.
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SONY was making Nintendo like profit in the PS2 era too but they had alot of R&D and other stuff going on
why do you think in 2005 when PS2 was at peak,they had a major dip in profit?- it was because they were working on CELL and blu-ray for the PS3 and the PSP push
also just don't look at SONY's PLAYSTATION division itself as alot of what PLAYSTATION 2 and PS3 did benefit alot of SONY's other department
like most what SONY's other divisions are profiting because of BLU-RAY are because of PS3's inclusion of the blu-ray drive
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Right, i'm sure the PS2 and PSP had no R&D whatsoever. In 2005 the dip was because of the PSP, in 2006 it was because of PS3, but it doesn't take a genius to see that Sony made way more money in the PS1 era YEAR AFTER YEAR. The PS2 was the first step in the wrong direction, they needed to dominate to make a profit and they did. PS1 would have made them a nice profit even if they were a distant second place.
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i was talking about the PS3 R&D not PS2
PS1 wouldn't have made nice profit if they were a distant second as they were new in console business then not Nintendo with handheld to save them
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Nobody said there wasn't a handheld, of course there was a handheld. Nobody is claiming the gamecube made more money than the PS2. Nintendo has always owned the handheld market and that isn't changing soon.
I don't know how you can say PS1 wouldn't have made a profit when it's clear they made money on each console sold, they made 1.13 billion in a year even though they didn't sell nearly as much software or hardware as PS2 in its peak year. I can only imagine how much money they could have made in the PS2 era if they had followed the same strategy as the PS1. Actually i can, it would have been close to the wii profits.
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I DIDN'T SAY handheld market would change
i didn't say PS1 would have made profit.but alot of and most profits come from the SOFTWARE side and is they were not selling well in HW they wouldn't have made so much SOFTWARE.
ps2 too made alot of profit but it wasn't shown as PS3 and PSP R&D was going on and so they cut the PS2 profits shown to the public as the R&D costs are shown in the divisions profits
