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Khuutra said:

1. It is not up to you to decide what is or is not necessary, it is up to consumers at large. They will be the ones to decide whether or not we needed a new Donkey Kong Country (here is a sneak preview: they will disagree with you).

2. Concerning new IPs: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3490671 You're welcome.

3. Fatal Frame is not Nintendo's Intellectual Property. It never was.

4. Whether or no they've attempted to make these IPs into huge juggernauts has nothing to do with the fact that they do make new IPs, ergo you are factually wrong concerning whether or not they make new IPs. You have crossed the line from stubbornly wrong to aggressively wrong. Do continue. I'm going to stop responding to this point, because you are factually wrong and there's no more need for me to address it, but you're free to continue pretending you are not wrong.

5. I'm actually not sure you know what "argument from ignorance" means.

6. You are still confusing IP iterations with "living in the past". If they release more re-releases and remakes than any other company (and your dfinition of a "remake" is absolutely absurb, since games are defined by content and mechanics and several of the gams you list, such as Starfox 64, is clearly not a remake) it is because they firstly want to provide that option to play these games to new and legacy players, and secondly because they prducce more games than any other development house anyway.

7. You are confusing "series" with "intellectual property" again. Mario Kart and Super Mario are not the same series.

8. Genres in themselves cannot be considered living in the past, sinc tey ae mechanical and they are genre. By that notion, all art, everywhere, is living in tthe past, and anything that can bep laced into a genre fails to be either fresh or neew in any meaningful way. You are so wrong you are making my eyes ache.

9. Microsoft and Sony don't show off side-scrollers either because they don't have the talent to make competitive sidescrollers (for gameplay mechanics; props to LBP otherwise) or they're too stupid to try to cater to people who love 2-D sidescrollers.

10. You are wrong on almost every point. I don't know what the internet message board equivalent of a hat trick is, but you got it.


Ugh, I'm just going to wrap this up because I guess I'm tired of this rigamarole (whathaveyou).  This gets annoying after a while that, because I don't painstakingly explain every single point, it's assumed I don't know what I'm talking about, for example, I know what an IP is.  Jeez. 

The story and set-up of StarFox64 is identical to StarFox on the SNES with new bells and whistles, by the way.  I have spent ample time with both.  Microsoft and Sony aren't "too stupid," they just don't feel like wasting their efforts on a genre that, these days, should be downloadable or on portable systems, and is a hard-sell as a full-fledged disc release.  But of course, you put Mario or something Nintendo-fanboyish in the thing, and you'll have those fanboys clamouring for it.

Yeah, I know, the fanboys will line up around the block to buy the latest shallow platformer with Donkey Kong in it, while I'm going to spend my money on games with depth like Fallout New Vegas, XCOM, and the like.  Well, okay, I'm probably going to snag that sweet Kirby game, side-scroller and all, it looks just too fun.  (Unless reviews reveal a short and pathetic performance.) 

The only thing I'm really wrong about is thinking I could have a conversation online with hardcore Nintendo fans, who will defend anything from the company, no matter how shallow, uninventive, or lame.

Also, I was going by IP's actually released by Nintendo, not that list of largely no-shows you had (some of that stuff was obscure owing to what I said... elsewhere or before how Nintendo doesn't support it's rare new IP's).  However, I will admit that going by "specific IP's," Nintendo has quite a few more than I said.  However, it doesn't help things that the vast majority of Nintendo's "new IP's" are either lame Wii-somethings, or built from an existing IP, i.e., Mario, Paper Mario, Mario Party, Mario Kart, Mario sports whatnots.  Lots of IP's, lots of lame.

Anyway, try to have fun with Donkey Kong Country Returns, right up until you realize how shallow that series is.