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Well, based on the presentation its clear MSFT isnt too interested in selling to traditional xbox 360 users. Their history of charging an arm and leg for accessories combined with the presentation lead me to believe theyre withholding infor because what we will see after all the current users interested in upgrading buy a slim, MSFT will sweep in and announce the slim kinect 250gb bundle for $299 this holiday, then drop the slim to $250 on its own with natal probably at the $150 stand alone.

MSFT has a knack for making us go WTF with their accessory prices compared to the logical bundled prices and i feel MSFT is far mor einterested in selling new consoles than Natal to existing users.

Just like if youve been interested in a larger harddrive MSFT almost made you think twice about just buying  anew xbox to get one based on their pricing, i think we will see the same thing here. This way existing users who dont upgrade to the slim who want natal will almost be forced to upgrade and buy a new console come november.....

Pretty obvious why theyre not announcing the price, capitalize on upgrades now, capitalize on bundles later.