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yo_john117 said:
thismeintiel said:

What is up with so many people defending the 360's build quality?  It RROD's.  "Oh well, they replace it for free."  "You shouldn't play it so long."  It scratches discs.  "Oh it's cause the people who use it are dumb."  "There's a sticker now telling you not to move it."  Then they give these exaggerated circumstances of how it would be moved.  Guys, the guy barely moved it before it started scratching the disc.  You can do that pluging something into the 360 itself.  Or what if someone accidently bumps into or knocks it over?  And let's not forget about Kinect, where you're going to be moving all around and jumping.  BBC Watchdog even proved last year that a 360 could scratch discs without even being touched while playing.  The point is they should be fixing these problems, not covering them up.

What's sad is that MS missed a big opportunity to improve the quality of the 360 all around.  Instead, it seems they merely slapped a new cover and threw in Wi-Fi.  What's even sadder is that people are actually defending a shoddy disk drive.

@ adobo

Are you actually implying that PS3 owners are jealous of a the new 360 cause it has a new feature (Wi-Fi) and a Piano Black finish?  Do you remember what a PS3 Phat is right?  And I hope you're not talking about the 250 GB HDD, cause I got a 500 GB in mine.  Can you clarify how these PS3 guys should be jealous?

You call that barely moving it???  he almost lifted it 90 degrees while moving it from side to side a bit.  When you plug something in nothing is gonna happen...and most people have their 360s inside of an entertainment so yeah.

People are WAY WAY over playing this.

What vid did you watch?  He didn't move it side to side at all.  He lifted the one side straight up, most likely wanting to see it work at a 90 degree angle.  And he only got it to 45 degrees before he stopped.  The noise started right before that.

And if anything, people are underplaying it.  The point of a remodel is to fix flaws in your original design.  Not slap a sticker on the console and consider yourself covered.  As a consumer you really should be demanding more from your hardware.