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theprof00 on 15 June 2010
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Raze said:
theprof00 said:
Raze said:
SpartenOmega117 said:
Raze said:

btw there is no such thing as "true" 1:1. All 3 systems have 1:1, no matter how you try to pitch it, they all do the same thing, they just have a different means of making it happen.


there might be no such thing but Move is showing the best precision

Dont get me wrong, for a copycat system on the Wii remote, Sony did a good job of bringing the Wii experience to the Sony userbase. Game to game, you will see varying results, naturally. I play COD:MW Reflex with just the regular wii remote and I have precise aiming to snipe a shadow a quarter inch in size on my screen with ease. Like I said, its all about how much time is taken to code the software end of things. The hardware is identical in control delivery to the system.

Just in case you're confused, that's not what I meant by 1:1. That's just a pointer. 1:1 pointing, sure, but it's not 1:1 movement. 1:1 movement means that the screen is a mirror, not just a lazer pointer. It's not a different thing, it's a step higher.

ANd actually, you're wrong about how the hardware is identical. It's completely different. Wiimote is more similar to digital, ie, the button push is translated into an action. WiiM is more similar to analog, ie, a fluid range of movement translating into a fluid process of multiple actions. However, M isn't 1:1, it has problems in such things like acceleration. Because the sensor bar only tracks the speed of the controller, flicking your wrist actually puts more power into the action. It does not track where the controller is. So it can't properly tell things wheras the move can.

I know that, I'm talking about the difference in controller reaction based on the developer side, not the hardware side. Some games aren't nearly as precise as others just due to rush jobs, etc. I was giving an example of a game where the dev took the time to make the response between controller and game correct. As for WM , the acceleration is in the standard Wii Remote, play billiards on Wii Play to get an idea of depth reading.  The WM part is for the multi-lateral positioning on the x/y axis, where the accelerometers take care of the z axis. For example, as a martial art studen versed in boken work, I think that the Kendo in WSR is pretty accurate based on actual movements. Sure, you can swing like a maniac, but you can just as well apply real moves in 3d space and time in 1:1. My point at the end of this is what I started with. No system has a "better" 1:1, they just all have 1:1 systems now (or will when the HD systems release). While both Sony and MS want to tear the motion control crown from Nintendo, they can only equally match it since Nintendo jumped on the WM scene.

oh yeah i agree. sorry if i didn't make myself clearer, but the hardware for move is simply better. Whether that translates into gaming or not is a different story. It could potentially be very not-fun and difficult to code. I also agree that it has a lot to do with the developer's prowess.