Solid_Snake4RD said:
TX109 said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
TX109 said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
TX109 said:
@Solid_Snake4RD
do you honestly think that the Wii was only successful because of its pricepoint? no, the wii was successful because of its new ideas (motion controls), great games, and nintendo targeting the HUGE casual audience. which it did successfully. price had very little to do with it. they arent the massive deciding factor you seem to think they are.
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No i don't think Wii was only succesful because of its price point
you aren't understanding what i am trying to say here
for example Dreamcast and Gamecube were also very good consoles but they just got overshadowed by the mighty Playstation 2 which has a lot of momentum from PS1 and the $299 price point.
the Wii was succesful cause it got on with the casual who don't follow gaming but most that is popular,so if PAS3 was to be $299 it would have gotten big sales at the start like PS2 and Wii would never have been popular as casuals wouldn't have come to know about it
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why do you think that "casuals" only follow what is popular?
the wii targeted the casual audience to great affect with fun pick-up-and-play games (much like the PS2) and interesting new tech. im sure if the PS3 had been $300 at launch it would have done WAY better than it is now, but it still wouldnt be as big as the wii. the wii won "casuals", which is a massive ausience, with strait-up fun and easy games and a new way to play them. that is something Sony didnt do.
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PS2 didn't become popular because it was fun to play
but because when it luanched,it from the start with all the hardcore gamers had big sales so it was popular
if PS3 had started at $299,it would have been in first place because from start everybody would have upgraded
people wouldn't have moved onto the 360 and wii
u think with Nintendo name being equal to shit in console space when Wii launched and Playstation brand being the biggest thing.Wii would still have sold well................lmao
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so your saying the PS2 was popular because it wasnt fun to play and it survived and thrived only on the hardcore who only bought it because it was sony?...wha?
the wii is popular not because nintendo made the system, but because it succesfully targeted an audience far bigger than "the hardcore" audience, the "casuals". you know, those who didnt play video games or even those who didnt want a super hardcore system. and hey, some may have got it because it was cheaper, but the low price did not dictate the wii's succes alone as you seem to think. most bought the Wii mainly because it was a fun and easy system with alot of fun and easy games and an interesting new way to play. whereas Sony only targeted the hardcore which was a mistake. nintendo saw the potential in this audience, took a risk, and succeeded.
you think that brand name and price point=100% of all sales......................lmao
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no i didn't say PS2 was not popular but that at the start of PS2 generation,hardcore gamers from the start bought the system so it become more popular
you really think a casual goes onto upgrading their game system as fast as a new generation launches.no they don't but hardcores do and thats what helped PS2 and the old succes of PS1.
do you think everybody out there even knew when Wii was launched or announced,no they din't they just followed it because of it was the thing to get that time.the Wii sales weren't good at first but they just took off in the second year.now tell me if PS3 was $299,it would have taken off from the first year itself and then Wii sales would have been low like you can see now,even though PS3 is cheap and has good games,Wii succes just overshadowed it and it is being difficult for the PS3 to climb in sales
brand name and price point alone don't make 100% of sales but they make you have a good start and once you have that,it is hard for other people to dethrone you
you think the iphones are better than the other powerful phones,no they arent't but APPLE names blinds people who just don't follow specs.
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so your saying people have no idea what they are buying? your saying that people are just buying it because it is cheap?
and if the hardcore helped boost sales for the PS2(which cost more than the GC) why didnt they help the sales of the PS3?
not everybody who doesn't follow video games and the industry was ignorant to the wii, while knowing exactly what the PS3 was. how many times must it be said? Nintendo managed to capture the eyes of many people who werent into video games, as well they managed to catch the eyes of those who wanted a (fairly) simple, family friendly system. this was achieved through great advertisement, new innovations, and games that appealed to those kind of people. whats the point of buying a system just because its cheap? my memory may be fuzzy, but i didnt see sony doing that. in fact i remember sony trying to distance themselves from the "casual" market. to say that people had no idea what the wii was is ridiculous. if that were the case, the wii wouldnt be so popular.
and maybe some people did pick up the wii because it was popular, but that happens with virtually everything. including the PS2.
you may be right, brand and price may give a boost in the begining, but saying that the wii's success and the PS3's....failure/stumble/ lack of success(take your pick) were all entirely based on price is completely wrong.
the facts are all there, and the fact that you refuse to see them is beyond me. im done here. good-bye
