JRPG's are dead

[SmoothCriminal]

dtewi said:

SmoothCriminal said:

What if I believed that small was smaller than tiny? Just because it means one thing to you, it could mean a completely different thing to me. This is why I go by definitions, especially when discussing something as technical as this.

 

Listen, it's clear that we have different ideas of what classifies an RPG. Since you're using connotations, JRPGs are RPGs. Since I'm using definitions, they are not. Since we're not going to convince each other, let's just drop it. All we've done is restate the same points over and over again anyway.

 

Still, it is my belief that JRPGs should never have been called such in the first place, in which case the connotation would not exist.

Now you're being stubborn.

The connotation comes from the consensus of the what the word implies.

RPGs have a connotation that follows what I said and what the majority of other gamers believe as well. Connotations are what are used in normal English, not the definition. People identify more with connotation.

Just as well, the connotation of an RPG is what I stated explicitly. You can't stamp your feet and say connotations are wrong, that's what everyone believes them to be. So stop trying to dismiss a connotation's validity to prove your point.

I do have a tendency to be pretty damn stubborn.

Like I said, you have your beliefs, I have mine. I'm not gonna force mine on you, and I'd appreciate it if you'd do the same. 

 

I can't say a connotation is wrong because there is no right. The same thing can have a thousand different meanings to a thousand different people. 

If everyone believes it to be true, then what am I, nobody? I'm sure that there are just as many defenders on my stance as there are of yours. 

 

Imagine for a moment that JRPGs had always been called Japanese Adventure Games. Would they still be RPGs? No, because the relationship between them and WRPGs is little to nonexistent. Instead, we would be having this discussion on weather or not they were truly adventure games. You'd probably say that they are, and I'd probably be saying that they should be called JRPGs. It's a paradox really.

 

Also, if you're definition of an RPG is correct, than Modern Warfare 2 as much or more of an RPG than Oblivion.