Is it so hard to have a game discussion where people understand each other?

[oldschoolfool]

MaxwellGT2000 said:

Serious question here folks, not asking why people have their camps, I really don't get why anyone would tie themselves to one company since it seems foolish, but people we're all gamers here, we can discuss things with fact and not jump in each others shit with baseless accusations.  Oh man he's defending something Nintendo he must be a Nintendo fan, now I must attack him because he is a Nintendo fan and his statement is worthless because he's obviously biased!

It gets frustrating going into forums, defeating statements with facts only to be called a Microsoft fan, or a Nintendo fan, or a Sony fan... I really don't tie myself down, you often see me on PSN, lately playing some awesome 3D Dot Game Heroes and I praise that game to high heaven, but then I come onto the forums and see a lot of fighting about Krazy Ken being called a genius, and people are offended that there are legit claims against that and take it as an attack on the entire Sony family, it's frustrating to have a discussion using reasons based in fact and people just try to say you're attacking the whole company when you've said nothing of the sort.

Look I feel we're all reasonable people but I feel a lot of unreasonable claims are thrown around in the gaming media which cause a lot of strife for the people that love gaming.  Many times you have things like Cliffy B being misquoted and an article made it sound like he was hating on Japan gaming, he wasn't he doesn't claim that, other people are just attention whores and love to stir things up cause it gets attention on them and their games.  I just don't see why the gaming masses can't see through many of these sorts of claims, we're reasonable people here but here are some tips.

If you see an interview from some high profile company but the name of the person interviewed doesn't seem familar to you, google it, find out the guys history, if its a team making a bold statement google that too, 9 times out of 10 the reason they made the comments were to get attention and serve their own purposes, you getting upset/agreeing with absurd statements makes you a pawn.

If someone tries to debate you on a subject, please don't go off the deep end, debate with reasons and facts, that's why we're here, sometimes it's obvious a person has a goal, but not everyone has subverse reasons for conclusions they state, and they'll back it up with fact if they don't.  If they do have subverse reasons, call them on the premise of their claim being crap and back it up with fact, calling someone a fan or fanboy makes you look worse cause you're trying to throw that out there to quickly make that persons argument null and void and it doesn't work that way.

Just use your head, if someone is posting something out of ignorance rather than because they're trying to troll or some such, point them in the right direction, not everyone is some lost blind fanboy, some people were just raised reading ignorant articles from "journalists" trying to get page hits and magazines sold, others just having a group that have secluded themselves from the truth and set up their own system of beliefs about gaming.  Prime example being my buddy Seraphic_Sixaxis, he came to VGC trolling up a storm, turns out he was just told a lot of wrong things about gaming, was a fanboy cause that was socially acceptable, but now he plays other consoles and tries new games and loves it, everyone needs an open mind.

I just see a lot of people having childish arguments, causing a lot of strife, and we wonder why the outside world thinks we're crazy and they won't take gaming as a form of media in the same lines as movies, art, books, and music.  Sure they may be ignorant in their own view of things like video games could never have beauty like that of art and music, but we shouldn't give them reasons to believe that, being more mature to each other would help a lot.

And it helps us grow a nice welcoming community here too

Thanks for letting me rant, you guys can rant too, hopefully some people take the things I said to heart!

It's just an internet forum. vgchartz is pretty tame compared to other internet forums. I think your making to much out of it.