FF XIII is a lot more better than I anticipated

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lestatdark said:

I'm not blowing this out of proportion. 

I can dictate her the entire dialogue, starting from the fight against Brynhildr to the end of Chapter 8, but I won't. Thread has too many damn spoilers as it is. 

You can easily look up youtube videos for it. 

And it's pretty easy to see that Sazh's realizations were directly affected by Vanille's actions. If he had been alone, he would have taken the other way out, just like he wanted to do. But he didn't. I guess that you also consider Vanille as to having no effect in that too.

You're basically saying Vanille's relevance to the plot in the middle of the game was this:

She was able to help Sazh through him finding out that Vanille turned Dajh into a l'Cie and helping Sazh develop his character into discovering that the fal'Cie were the real enemy and then Sazh helped out in the fight by doing something you haven't explained.

Vanille remotely characterized Sazh, didn't directly characterize him. His own character growth came through his own thoughts, not what Vanille said to him.