Barozi said:
Kasz216 said:
.jayderyu said:
I'm with the support of Online Game Passes completely. The USED GAME MARKET is a BLIGHT ON THE GAME INDUSTRY. I know that many gamers will feel the opposite, but if you are going to buy the game with intent to support the industry. Make sure you actually supporting the developers. This Used Market only supports retail and it makes retail more money that new. Retail get's a bigger cut on used games than new games.
If your only going to buy the game for personal consumer intent. Then to the developers you might as well committed piracy. They don't see a cent in either situation. Though you are still supporting the economy in terms of paying some ones wage.
So if a developer/publisher want's money and are disgusted with used games. Then this is a perfect alternative. I suspect though that this will lower the value of used Online Pass Games at Retail Stores by apx$10 when gamers fully catch on and don't buy them used.
Anyone thinking that a back pedal of publishers will happen eventually from the out cry of gamers.. it won't. This model is not new. It's been out for around some odd years in the PC world. You Console Kids need to give it a rest. You can't have it both ways. You can't have PC Online service design that's 15 years old(claiming it's console originated) then bitch about PC service charges. It's a service charge that's it. Get used to it.
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What are you talking about?
This isn't a PC model of buisness. EA sports games are free on PC. Any system with online like that is free on PC. I mean, have you ever played a PC game?
I mean are you talking about MMORPGs? MMORPGS are totally different stories because of the vast amount of stuff that needs to be stored on a server.
Games like this are FREE on PC... and probably will only cost money when stupid shit like this from consoles pollutes PC. You know... just like everything else does.
Aside from the fact that once again... the Used market HELPS the New market. Feel free to read the article i've already posted twice in this thread... it's basic economic fact.
By supporting this you are merely supporting companies like EA shooting themselves in the foot and losing revenue.
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Have you ever heard of a CD/DVD Key ?
Good luck trying to play a used PC game online. Even better, try to play a pirated copy online.
Have you ever heard of Steam ?
Good luck trying to buy/sell a used game like Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead or Modern Warfare 2
PC publishers already did what EA Sports and Sony are doing now on consoles/handhelds.
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It's funny that arguments why PC gaming is bad, such as cd-keys, are now being accepted as a good thing on consoles. I don't mean that as a blanket statement for everybody though.
Pc games have cd-keys, true. However, do you really think console games will come down in price like PC games can? Have you seen the weekly specials on Steam? Speaking of Team Fortress 2 and Left 4 Dead, have you seen how Valve supports many of it's games with updates and additions? Heck, Half-Life 2 and Episode 1 just had a big update with graphical improvements and achievements for free and they're singleplayer games! You're being screwed out of $10-15 for a little bit of extra DLC (or even game features now) on top of expensive DLC (like map packs) while Valve is still releasing updates for Team Fortress 2 adding new official and user made maps, game modes, achievements, weapons and items without charging for it.
So what, are these publishers and developers really going to be supporting their games now? Are we going to see tons of free DLC? Will the multiplayer be shut down soon after next year's iteration of the game comes out? Also, now that they're trying to get rid of the used game market, will games remain at full price for longer? Heck, will they still continue to restrict features on the disk and charge you to access them even if there was no used market?
