axumblade said:
Kasz216 said:
twesterm said:
Kasz216 said:
twesterm said:
Sorry, I'm with EA, Sony, and anyone else that does this. It doesn't hurt the consumers, it only hurts the used game stores and probably the ma and pa ones at that.
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How does it not hurt people who sell the game. You don't think used game stores are going to start offering less for games that use this voucher?
I'd guess most if not all of the money will come out of the person who sells it's pocket.
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You might get less for the games but you'll also get used games for less.
If you sell games to buy new ones, then you might lose a small amount but when we're talking in the amounts of $5, it's nothing huge.
If you sell games to buy used ones, you're getting less but you're paying less too. If you want the online pass that will cost you more, but just pretend it's DLC and it would cost more anyways.
I don't really see why people are bitching so much about this. If you really don't like it, buy your game new for $59.99 instead of used for $54.99.
Also, I do find it funny that people are wanting to boycott EA for this, except they're the ones buying used EA games and EA doesn't care about them.
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A) Your math is off... it's WORSE If you buy games used.
I buy Madde 2010 New, for 60 dollars, and trade it in for 10 dollars instead of 15. (or 5 dollars instead of 15 if gamestop decides to take no loss.)
I save up and buy Tiger Woods 2011 used... for 45 dollars instead of 55 dollars. Now I pay 10 dollars for the used code.
Total net to me? -5. (Or -10 if they decide to they don't want to absorb this loss.)
Also, once again... if there are a shit ton of games selling for 55 dollars used... what does that tell you about the game?
It was bad enough that a shit ton of people who bought the game thought it sucked and traded it in. It's not like that $55 pricepoint is around long.
Why am I supposed to feel bad that a game a bunch of people bought and thought wasn't worth the price was losing a bunch of money to used sales?
If I buy a shitty movie on DVD and don't like it should I feel bad if I give that movie away to someone who wants it? I am afterall "Robbing the movie company of another sale" based on the same backwords logic.
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Well, if you can GIVE away a crappy movie, then you can GIVE away a crappy game. The person just has to pay a few bucks to be able to play it (which since movies are about 5-20 dollars wheras games are about 20-60 dollars seems like a fair exchange to me considering a person would generally spend a significant amount more money and time on the game then they'd ever spend with the movie.
The movie industry is different anyways. Movies have 2 times in their cycle to make money. Box Office and Home Release sales. With the exception of fighters (and a few other games, rail shooters and ddr would have you), gaming doesn't have the option of being made readily available to play for pay months before you can bring it home on a console.
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I DO give games away. Regardless... it doesn't change the point.
Explain why game companys should profit extra from making a game I didn't like and therefore give away. That's just... stupid.
If the game gets resold... well... to bad that's what the company gets for making a game that people wanted to resell rather then a game that gives people reasons to hold on to it.
There is NO justification for the online pass.... at all. Outside of greedy companys being even more greedy and finding any excuse they can to charge more for stuff rather then work on making it so their products are better and appeal to more people.
