| enrageorange said: Both Egypt and Isreal have agreed to blockade Palasteine. Its not just Isreal that blockades it, although I do think the blockade should be ended as soon as safely possible. Both Isrealies and Palestilians have commited attrosities against each other. Its just that Isreal has the better weapons. That picture of the palastenian boy getting chained to the car as a shield was terrible, but if it was a isrealie boy throwing stones at palastenians, he would be killed and beheaded rather then chained. On the other hand Isreal retaliations cause way to many civilian casualties. The Flotila would have provided insignificant supplies. Isreal had in previously years not interviened with Flotilas enterering Palasteine against their wishes, so it wouldn't have been symbolic ether. As for what actually happened in the boat. The videos clearly show that the isrealies rappled down holding none lethal guns. If they didn't bring lethal holistared guns, the headlines would just have been 20 israeli commandos dead, and far more civilians killed when the isrealies would have had to take over the ship afterwards. It is unrealistic and useless to rapple down with riot shields since they could easily be taken before a formation could be made, and a mob with knifes and clubs if far more lethal then a few soldiers with pellet guns. The isrealies came down expecting a few unruley passangers, which is what happened in the other ships, not a mob attacking them which the videos cleary show.How can you take an activist's word that the Isrealis came in shooting, when the video very clearly shows Isrealis holding paintball guns rappaling down into mobs beating them. |
Irrational hatred for Israel. I mean, that should be pretty clear based on the posting a lot of people show.
Although, I think a lot of it just comes from an irrational hatred of the USA, as there usually seems to be a connection. Though it could be just coincidental, who knows.
People need to be calmer and wait for facts, and then when they come out, look at them. People are far too prone to unproven hysterics even when the most basic factchecking could be done...
like the constant claims Shio has made that have been shot down in what probably took all of 10 minutes and a google search for the most complicated. (The demographics of children of Gaza vs other countries with similar birthrates.)
Of course if people were more rational this would of never happened anyway. As the Palestinians would of taken a deal a long time ago, as it's clear they have little to no barganing power, Israel is only shifting more conservative... and there options and deal is only going to shrink further and further.
Take the best deal you can get now, get people to stop firing rockets and complain politically for more. It's so much more logical then using your own people and keeping them in a horrid plite just so you can use them as emmotional blackmail to try and sway world opinion.
Well, I suppose it's not more "logical" in the cold sense of the word, but it makes more sense in the everyday life sense.








