TX109 said:
mirgro said:
TX109 said:
so, you have undeniable evidence that the entire universe exploded from a cell-cized ball of matter? where is your video footage of man evolving from a monkey?
look, im not going to say that any of what you believe is true or false. i will, however, respect your views and the views of others on this site. don't you dare begin to rant about those who are insecure, though. the only people ive seen spewing insults and attacks here are the atheists. if you are right, and know you are right, what is the point of lashing out at others who disagree? all i wanted to know at the beginning of this argument, and all i still want to know is why you people care so much about views you don't agree with? you people don't argue against religion so mush as you rudely belittle it.
there is absolutely no scientific evidence that says there can't be a god or some other higher being. in fact, the many processes and balances found in our universe suggest that there is something far greater than ourselves out there (this is at least what i believe). whatever the cause of the creation of our universe is, science cannot at this time and may never pinpoint just what that is. no one, creationist or atheist, has any right to say the other side is without a doubt wrong.
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I am fairly sure I haven't said anywhere that I think the big bang happened the way it happened. As for evolution though, it takes a single celled organism, like a bacteria, a few years to evolve and become resistant to antibiotics. So yes, evolution is actually happening right now to living beings as we speak. Of course a human is billions and billions of cells with dozens of different cells, so evolving, especially noticeably, would take a significantly longer time. Unless you are trying to imply that living organisms aren't evolving at this very moment.
If I am right and I know I'm right I don't want to put up with the bullshit of others, that's exactly the point. Religious people don't shut the fuck up and leave others alone. I would LOVE to be left alone to whatever I think, or in the case of homosexuals, do what I want to do. However it's religious people who are the ones who ram their shit down others' throats. Have you seen atheists demand any form of control over others' lives? Have you heard of atheists demanding control of a woman's body? Have you seen atheists put up singn and screaming about who I can and cannot have sex with? Have you seen atheists form mhuge campaigns to outlaw what I am allowed to imbibe? Or have you heard of atheists pushing for schools to teach Andersen as fact? Please inform me if you have, because I most certainly have never heard of atheists doing such ridiculous things. Only religious people try to pull that shit off, and they get away with it because they are allowed to push it of as their own "belief." Atheists don't want people to not be religious, they jsut want them to shut the fuck up and to be left alone.
As for god overall. Calculus and physics all existed before Newton came along, they just couldn't be proven yet. So I cannot say what is and isn't quite yet, maybe in a millenia or so. Though whatever race of supernatural being created us, they don't give two shits about us so we really shouldn't worry about them either and whether we should please them or some other such crap from one religion or another. Personally, I liked the Aztecs the most, you are going to hell unless some very extreme conditions were met. I really don't give a shit whether I am right or wrong, I just don't want gullible people (there has been a study shown that the more religious people show suspesion of disbelief occurs in religious people) who believe in fairy tales to tell me how to live my life.
P.S. You also haven't at all addressed why religious texts hold any more merit than Pipi Longstocking.
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i wasnt here to say who was right. the issue i am trying to address is the hypocrisy i see all too often. by coming here and calling other peoples beliefs "bullshit" and "fairy tales", you and a lot of others have become the very thing you hate. there are a lot of bad people who say and do terrible things in the name of religion, that much is true. what about those who arent bad? how do you think you make them feel when you act like this? you, for one, seemed pretty pissed when you thought i was calling your beliefs lies.
if you dont want to put up with other people, then dont. YOU can be the better person. YOU can decide whether their nonsense gets to you. ive never had a problem with someone i disagreed with.
do religious texts hold any merit? i don't know, i cant prove they do. that doesnt mean that im going to tell others that they are wrong, or stupid, or epic fail.
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Because religion is based on fairy tales, no matter how one tries to spin the bible or the quran they will remain in the realm of fairy tales and fiction next to Robin Hood and King Arthur.
As for my beliefs, they really prove themselves, I was more offended that there exist people who can't see clearcut evidence when it's right in front of their eyes than by the fact somone disagreed with my "beliefs." Generally the people who disagree with my "beliefs" fall well into the uneducated category.
I don't want to put up with othe people, except they seem to make it my business to put up with them. When prohibition came around, who the fuck were the religious people to say I can't drink? Who the fuck are they to say I can't have sex with certain person? Who the fuck are they to say what I can and cannot do with my body? Or what I can and cannot read or watch (Utah has outlawed pronographic magazines and movies)? You can't just disagree with a law cause then you end up in jail. If I want to get porn there is zero reason why I shouldn't be because some gullible, uneducated fuck read it in a book with the exact same merits as a fairy tale.
I can put up with religious people, in fact I have no problem with that, I just can't put up with them when they start spewing their bullshit all over me.
