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RageBot said:
shio said:
RageBot said:
shio said:
noname2200 said:
shio said:
noname2200 said:
According to the Yahoo! article, there seems to be tape showing that the Israelis didn't open fire immediately as the flotilla members claimed.

 Israel attacked innocent people, and the civilians only tried to protect themselves.

I should probably have cited to the article so that you could read the description.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100531/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians

Footage, or self-interested testimony?  Of course, the footage may well be incomplete.

It is irrelevant, the israeli soldiers attacked and boarded in international waters, which is pretty much the same as pirates. They then killed almost 20 civilians and seized all the aid that was for the palestinians.

1. The international law allows boarding a vessel that is on course to your country.

2. So you basically say that the Israeli forces shoudl've just said "okay, we won't use lethal force against you, stab our 18 to 20 year old soldiers as much as you please, and we will really appreciate it if you will turn back, too! :) "

3. The Israeli governmant told the Convoy (or whatever word is appropriate) that if they want to get the supplies into Gaza, they shoulod anchor in the Ashdod harbor, and the supplies will be transfered into Gaza, why would they refuse? Oh, now we know, don't we?

1- The flotilla WASN'T heading to Israeli waters. AND the flotilla made evasive maneuvers to return back when they spotted the israeli forces! Also, the international law only allows for the home forces to engage a ship at most 12 miles off the baseline of their home waters... the flotilla was over 80 miles off the coast, and well over the extended 12 miles.

According to LAW, Israeli illegally attacked and killed civilians.

2- So the civilians should say, "ok, let's allow these pirates to capture us, our ships and our supplies, and maybe even kill us"

3- The israeli government is known to always hold back humanitarian aid to palestine. They only allow atmost 1/4 of the aid necessary to help palestinians.

 

The Israeli government are terrorists. The blockade they have on Palestine is considered illegal, which is why this incident can cause huge damage to Israel. The Israel forces shouldn't even have been able to intercept the flotilla if it weren't for the illegal blockade.

1 - It was, that's a fact, and regarding international law - you are right.

2 - Yes, they should, since why would the Israelis kill them if they didn't do anything? If they take supplies into a place that is under Israeli jurisdiction, they should give the supply to Israel, just like plenty of other organizations do.

3 - Yeah, hold back humanitarian aid, like... wait no, you are wrong :)
Israel supplies water and electricity to Gaza, they allow dozens of trucks with food to enter Gaza every day, you really, don't know what you are talking about.

The blockade is illegal? So is suicide bombing in Israel, I have friends who lost family members in such bombing, Israel has every single right to make sure that no weapons enter Gaza, and no Bombers enter Israel.
You know what else is illegal? Firing Qasam rockets on Israeli civilians in Ashdod, but who gives a shit about these guys, right?

It isn't Israel's fault that they are better armed, and more lethal than the Palestinian terrorists, making their retaliations better than what Hamas fires at Israel.

It seems you are ignorant of the situation. The flotilla WASN'T heading to Israeli waters. They were heading to Palestinian Waters, to give aid to the inhabitants of Gaza Strip.

Israel has an illegal blockade surrounding the entire Gaza Strip, and that blockade has been called and decried hundreds of times by the global commuinity. It is an inhumane, and illegal blockade. It was the israeli forces from the blockade that attacked the flotilla and killed 19 civilians.

 

And it seems that now there are reports that IDF killed 2 activists before boarding the ship! WOW! Fuck israeli government.