This is rather embarrassing voice acting wise....

[Weegee]

Hynad said:

Weegee said:

Yeah but i didn't claim that english is the norm , I just said that you were wrong to think 20 year ago english was more strong.

Also the whole conversation was about English Voice VS Japan Voice, nobody provided proofs that japanese or american was better at localizing or traducting.

Itagaki and I were just saying that you can't say that one language traduction is better than an other if you can't understand the language because you will not be able to hear the language default and you can't argue that.

Also Rutea7 was the first to said english sucks compare to japanese one so Itagaki just took the defense of english (and me too).

If Rutea7 had said 'I prefer japanese over english' that would be correct but he just said that english suck so we got the right to say 'No you are wrong'.

 

First, I didn't say or think that English was stronger in Québec 20 years ago.

Here's where I think you misunderstood what I said:

"The younger generations , those born in the late 70s, the 80s and later, have a much better understanding than the rest and many are even bilingual but they are not the norm.  I don't know who you are trying to fool here."

What it means is that the younger generations I mentioned were born in an era where bilinguism is on the rise.  But I already illustrated how this rise isn't that big when you only take the natively French speaking people, which were the center of my argument to begin with.

Now, I didn't not talk about the localization process.  I only mentioned Voice acting work and the overall difference in quality from both sides.  Stating that the quality is more consistent in Japan than it is in the West.  Providing comparison data is impossible at this point in time as none exist.  But as Rutea7 (she's a girl, by the way) and I pointed out, the fact that the trained voice actor pool is significantly bigger there than in the west is indication enough to understand the impact it can have on the final results.  For people who can understand both languages, most of the time they will stick to the original Japanese version, mentioning the quality of the acting at almost every turn.  You can call those people "vendus" or "weeaboos" but you'd do that only in ignorance of what they're talking about since you don't understand the language yourself.

Just take you, I_Hate_Itagaki and me for example.  I'd wager we all prefer to play our games and watch our movies in English rather than in French.  And this is mostly because the quality of the French voice acting is usually not on par with the English versions.

 

I'll post more later, whenever I find something more consistent to illustrate my points.

 

 

P.S. : The argument could go both ways though.  You could provide proof that Japanese voice acting isn't of better quality overall than what is found in occident. ¬_¬

 

 

@ I_Hate_Itagaki: Je peux très bien lire tes torchons.  Le verdict reste le même:  c'est vide.  Retapes tout ça en anglais et on s'en reparle après? ^_-

If you can prove me with some link or source that the trained voice actor pool is bigger in japan that would be better.

For people who can understand both languages, most of the time they will stick to the original Japanese version.

That because japanese version of anime is on internet first (on tursday generaly), so they stick with the japanese voice from habit. (That possible that some of these people prefer the japanese voice version, I know that)

And I never said that english voice was better , I know my argument go both way and is intentional because i'm not biais.