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Value arguments tend not to work in the games market. It doesn't matter in the end that a 360+Natal might be comparable/cheaper to a 4 person Wii/M+ or PS3/Move setup, just like it didn't matter that a standard PS3 was comparable/cheaper to a 360 with a Live subscription plus HD-DVD & WiFi add-ons. What seems to matter most is the initial price of entry.