Natal vs. Move:The game of Smoke and Mirrors

[joeorc]

ramses01 said:

joeorc said:

ramses01 said:

joeorc said:

Smidlee said:

joeorc said:

 

and the OP's thread was about that..what squil brought in was an opinion on the development of both technology's of how each party which he was trying to say that Microsoft's development software was more complicated than sony's for development which while is his opinion , is just that an opinion its ok to have an opinion. that still does not take away from the fact that we know.

the processes are done on the xbox360 not Natal, so your :

"NATAL is a neuro-network based simulution and prediction algorithm for human movement layered on top of a 3D spatial detection mechanism."

is still performed on the xbox360's precessor not on Natal itself, thus it's not an issue for Natal but on the same token that's nothing anything that Sony is not doing with the PS3 and it's development for processing algorithm's on the Cell processor. both have to program those chip's

thay may use many seperate API's but they still have to go about programming those to do what they need them to do, saying one software company produces more complicated software over the other is just his opinion.

that still does not make it a fact, which was what he was putting out in this thread.

 

 
I would think Natal software has to be more complicated than Move as Move has something very reliable to track. Yet at the same time Natal software can't be too complicated or it will take too much time to process.

it's not so much about the camera's as about the processing!

those chip's have to be programmed. just because you are only tracking one object does not mean other thing's that are going into the same software would not be complicated.

that's trying to generalize every thing that goes into s a software program, and that i think is very wrong.

taking into account one thing but not the other's is glossing over what the software does on a whole. like i said I am not taking anything away from the point of Natal being more advanced than the eyetoy because it is. what I am disagreeing with is the idea that the software is more complicated over the other because we have no idea what each program's are for each of the system's will employ. one of each may be more complicated than the other on any givin software we do not know.

You are missing the entire point.  NATAL is the software.  Sony is incapable of creating NATAL because they don't have the R&D expertise on the software side.  If you listen to some of the MS R&D folks talk about NATAL, you would get a better idea.

o'l not you too..?

look while i respect you and all , but that's just an your Opinion..somehow i get this feeling were no longer talking about game's at this point and were just talking About ..because

you an squil

are trying to make it a

in [general] Microsoft software vs. in [general] Sony software

and that once again is quite subject to each person's opinion.

 

Sigh, did you read what you wrote, because you aren't making sense.  We were NEVER talking about games.  Only about the software behind NATAL.  No games - software.  how difficult is it to parse a sentence.  MS is the only company in the world that could make NATAL because they are the only one that has spent 15-20 years and who knows how much money on the R&D behind natural user interfaces.

 

omg...get over your self please.

"only microsoft"...

..now that's just plain wrong and you know it.

For One Microsoft did now even make Natal, second Microsoft has not been the only other company to develop user interface devices.

there have been plenty of companies to do such devices and Sony is also one of them.

MS is the only company in the world that could make NATAL....please

that is utter hogwash