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nightsurge said:
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supercat said:
I agree, $100 is way too much at this point, NS. I say that $50 could be done though, and keep in mind that Sony looks like it will be getting an additional source of revenue with the premium services thing.

That's my personal prediction, too.  A $50 price cut to the PS3, then have Move bundled in for a total of $349.

how the hell will move be bundled at $349

 

if they take out DS3 and put in Move($30),NAV($20),EYE(20) they could pack in at $299 without a loss.and they will be making profits across other SKU's

But that would be the stupidest thing in the world to not include the DS3.  They will keep the DS3 in there as well as the game you forgot and maybe even a second Move controller since some games require 2.  All that will be for $349 or higher.

how the hell is would be the stupidest thing when all of the DS3's features and buttons are on the MOVE controller.

there is no need of DS3 as you can do everything with MOVE and NAV even without the eyeas there non-motion signals go to PS3 like DS3 through bluetooth.

they will include a second MOVE controller or a NAV not both.

 

and that won't be for $349

 

THEY could release the current 120GB SKU at $249

second they could take out DS3 and release the MOVE bundle at $299

THIRD they could put both DS3 and MOVE with 250gb at $349

Once again you are completely wrong.  The MOVE system only has 1 analog stick.  That right there would mean without the Eye there would be no possible way to play any of the dual analog stick games.

All the rest of your post is the same nonsense where you show you know absolutely nothing about product pricing and bundling.  They don't bundle things based on production cost, but on retail cost.  A $100 bundle that only includes Move, Eye, and a game at retail vs buying the PS3 bundle for $349 which includes a Nav controller as well for the same $100 cost would appear to be a savings of $30-40 at retail value for the consumer.

If they don't bundle Move, no one will buy it because the price of entry for being able to play any game with it is too high to buy standalone.  If they do bundle the PS3 will be back up to $349 or more.  360 will be back to being $100 cheaper for the similar spec machines (Elite vs PS3) even with Natal bundled in that 360.

the second analog is for pointing things which move will do through the eye motion sensing and it has button for R3

But you said WITHOUT the use of Eye.

yeah but for targeting yo use it,otherwise you dont.and its not that they won't include EYE if leaving out DS3

 

whoever would buy the move bundle would buy it with the move or could buy it standalone,its their choice

 

how does MOVE+EYE+GAME COST $100 and retailers get only a small amout in hardware sales,most profit comes from SW

Because Sony basically told us and it has been leaked to cost even more than $100 if you buy the Move + Nav controller so Move + Eye + Game seems common sense to cost $99.  (Sony said "below $100")

No they din't say that NAV would cost more,they just said they are targeting under $100 A STANDALONE MOVE BUNDLE.now whether it includes one MOVE,two MOVE or a MOVE and NAV isn't something they mentioned


don't talk about the cost leak cause it is just speclation,that ways NATAL itself should be $150-200 by some leaks

 

 

PS3 would be back upto $349 cause they can do it with MOVE only with taking out the DS3,people buying MOVE bundle are buying for the MOVE and can take standalONE DS3's for $40.

DS3's are still $55 a piece.  The leaked info said that Move and the Nav controller combined could be as much as $115.  Talk about a crazy high entry price.

You can buy a DS3 for $40,$55 was the starting price,most sell it at $40-45 now.


again leaked info doesn't mean anything as it can be $1000 OR $100 so stop basing ur commnets on that.just use some logic

 

WHY WOULD MOVE AND NAV cost so much if they don't do much better from DS3.

 

entry price depends on the console maker,the retailer make very less from HW.SONY and MS price standalone  accesaries high to make money of it and their sales aren't gonna affect much in their console sales and SW but MOVE and NATAL entry prices would be low cause it can affect console sales,MOTION game sales and their impact on the whole thing


 

 

360 arcade would be $100 than the cheapest PS3 SKU that is 120gb if 360 has an impact and there won't be a $100 between NATAL and PS3 MOVE bundle.

I said a 360 Elite Slim with Natal bundle will be cheaper by $100 than the PS3 base model.

 

yeah 360 NATAL ELITE could be $200 and SONY WOULDN'T CHANGE THE PRICE of their 120GB sku 360 doesn't have an impact but it it does then they will


but it wouldn't make sense by keeping 360 arcade at $149 AND and 360 ARCADE NATAL at $199 and 360 ELITE natal at $199.MIGHT AS WELL scrape the $199 ARCADE NATAL or keep it as


360 ARCADE SLIM $149

360 ARCADE NATAL with small HDD $199

360 ELITE NATAL $249


AS NATAL ELITE AT $199 OR AT $249 wouldn't make a difference if you are getting NATAL with arcade so separate them

 

 

and please next time write outside