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xeroxm3 said:
I think another thing that bothers some Nintendo fans, or me at least, is how easy Sony and Microsoft think the casual market is to please. People always rip on Wii Sports (Resort)and Wii Fit but those games are actually highly polished. Nintendo isn't just shoveling out these games from their B-teams. Motion controls are still being figured out and Sony & MS might just learn that the hard way.

In the end none of these control schemes will get it right and they'll all have their own little quirks. However I feel that only Nintendo is really going to be successful with motion this gen simply because they fully embrace it. Motion control is part of Nintendo's identity now, and currently Sony and Microsoft look like they just want to reach into the cookie jar too.

Exactly. Is the same "casuals=retarded" mentality they had (along game journalists and analyst) and the way they made the controllers just show that they don't get it yet. They just say "look! is like wii sports but edgier and in HD!!!!".

Truth is that the "casuals" are not easy to fool and actually are very difficult to attract and tend to be more selective with the kind of gams thety spent their money on it. Sony and MS doesn't know that or they just don't care.