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nightsurge said:
joeorc said:
nightsurge said:
joeorc said:
Xbbjf9s said:
averyblund said:
Those are teardown prices, they don't include packaging, R&D, transport, or marketing. if a price-cut happens I don't think things will turn around until sometime in 2011.

Between the 360 RRoD and PS3 build-cost this is gonna be a generation that MS and Sony are going to wish they could forget. Neither will exit it having made a cent it seems. How they managed to mess it up is beyond me though.


RROD was that bad for MS?

it cost microsoft over 1.8 billion total sofar since 2007, which is not that bad over all with Microsoft fixing the problem, it may have cost them more if they had not done what they did.

Isn't that the total losses for the 360?  Not just RRoD.

nope that is the total to date on the RROD. which like i stated is not bad if you consider the number of faulted system's that they did have which was 11.6 million.

Where did you get that number then? Also, where did you get the number for the total systems they have repaired?  Because that sounds almost exactly what the total losses on 360 were.  RRoD was just 1 Billion of it.

The only real number we have is when MS basically admitted to the RRoD debacle and set aside additional $1.2billion to cover the cost. The key word here (and most people seem to have overlooked that little bit), was the word ADDITIONAL. Now we can all play the guessing game how much MS set aside for ordinary "planned" repairs for a brand new product XBox360. (Every company sets aside such costs when introducing a new product if they want to stay in business). All guesses are allowed, but $200-$500million is a reasonable guess. The only indication we have again, is that software-tester guy who forgot his NDA (and later got sued left and right I guess) that spilled the beans about initial production runs failing almost 100% at the end of the assembly lines). So total loss from RRoD could be around $1.5b which would add almost $40 manufacturing cost to every XBox360 ever produced until now...