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@Robo , regarding modnation , i haven't played much of it just a few races and checked out the hub where all the features are ,it has great potential lots of customisation and community features i like it ,but the loading times could be  better when i first played it was like molasses,seemed better today still about 30sec or so,probably something to do with having to look for and load custom cars tracks etc , i also think games with loading time issues should look at disguising it better by providing something of interest on screen, in the case of mod nations, lots of post race stats etc  interesting game info  etc  on screen while the  loading occurs , back to the game as a game  so far so good  , how it pans out overtime who knows , but if you like Kart racers and want one on the ps3 i would say this is it.

 



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