WEWdeadeye said:
dishdash said:
WEWdeadeye said:
dishdash said:
WEWdeadeye said:
Yeah, dishdash is right, they are made to confuse the shareholders, because I am sure a lot of shareholders on the border of pulling out would take the leap if they just gave it to them straight. With all the double meanings and generalizations no matter what happens Sony can find a way to put a spin on things so they don't look completely wrong when their estimates miss the mark by a mile. |
They are not made to confuse shareholders. They're honest predictions at the time. Chubachi has already said they're likely to fall short on the predictions and he's higher up the Sony food chain than Hirai. We'l have to wait for 'official' word before we know more. There's no foul play no matter how much people wish it so. The main thing shareholders care about is the bottom line. And Sony are expected to exceed there prediction of 5% operating income. |
You can think what you want, but when the playstaion division is doing as poorly as it has been, a company is going to try and twist the truth any way it can, like sony has been doing. There is nothing "honest" about their predictions and or statistics, because they are all intended to spin the truth in a positive way for shareholders, who are probably seriously considering if its worthwhile to risk staying in and hope things turn around. The "truth" right now is that Sony and the PS3 are bleeding major money, which isn't good for shareholders. |
You're getting to emotional about it, you're emotions dont = truth. SCE make up about 9% of Sony. Sony's overall predicted operating profit this fiscal was $2.6billion and even with SCE's losses they are expected to beat that!. Maybe you should follow the quarterly conference calls for shareholders from Sony instead of reading individual SCE execs interviews and surmising Sony spins, twists the truth to shareholders etc?. |
My emotions have nothing to do with it. Pretty lame to get emotional over this stuff, which is why I just don't understand fanboys in the first place...I digress. That is nice and dandy that you mention they will beat their operating profit, but they could have easily doubled it. Shareholders notice things like that. Just because a company as a whole is not going down the tubes, people who have invested money in said company would like to see larger returns than just matching their operating costs. Without the incessant bleeding they could have had an enormous profit. You clearly aren't looking at this from an unbiased POV, otherwise you wouldn't keep adding fuel to your flamed out arguments. |
Sony's stock price has risen about 60% in the last 18 months. The medium term prospects for Sony many analysts say look better than they have done for quite a few years. The losses in the game division are just short term and are caused by Sony PURPOSEFULLY slashing the ps3's price (unless theres more cuts). Actually as things stand from October onwards the ps3's losses are expected to be minimal. Sony realise they gave Kuturagi to much power. They've sacked him. And the price cuts are Sony attempting to get back in the game. No shareholder expected Sony to have kept the ps3 at $600 just because it meant more short term profits.
