| libellule said: Hopefully, I m here to kick some ass again ;) Let's put away those eastern european people. so, first, I would say that FR has A LOT less black people in their territory AND that those people come quite recently in FR (well, most of them). So, FR is dealing with a 50 years old proble, 100 years at worst. US : black + white second point, the immigration rate of the black population is very different between the countries. France has a lot of africans immigration RIGHT NOW while the immigration rate in US is quite reduced as most black people are endemic black people that lived there since severals generation. This means that the level of integration (culture/language) is not at all the same. so what do we have at the end ? France is dealing with a quite new problem that is FAR more complex that the one in US because the difference is not only skin. It is also language, culture, religion, etc ... AND it is a NEW problem. I do believe, that we are dealing with it a lot better than US. Finally, since this is not the same "black population" and the same context, using poor statistic based on unemployement rate in the minorities without taking account the specificity of each country means nothing |
Yeah... none of those points actually matter however.
Reason being... the studies factor out anything EXCEPT credentals. They are ONLY using race as an indicator. None of it is based on anything except level of qualification for a job.
In the end I CAN prove which country is the most racist. The one where 90% of all hiring has resulted in racism.
The US is more free then any other country about racism. There is no "unexpressed hatred" That's the point. The US allows MORE free speech not less.
I swear... I don't think most of you even know what Affirmitive Action really is, you treat it as if it's some big overwhelming law where people go from buisness to buisness counting minorities.
Affrimitive Action is nothing but 3 things more or less.
1) Common equality laws.
2) It allows colleges to let in underpriviliged students of a minority if they want too. Why would they want to when your output of students effects your reputation? Multiculutral campuses tend to perfrom better... The smarter white children actually learn more when exposed to people of other races.
3) It allows public service jobs to put in quota's so the public service jobs are representative. Again this makes sense... I mean, think about your own country... say some Muslim youths are loitering in one of their suburbs infront of a store... who are they going to reaact to more negativly? A white cop, or an Arab cop.
No country is "postracial" yet. Which is why it's important to have the police and other public service workers represent their communities. So there is less "they came late because of our neighborhood" or "They're only hassling us because of our race."
