Why do americans say Obama is black?

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Profcrab said:

libellule said:

Profcrab said:
I see that some others already jumped on this but my bullshit meter goes off like an air raid siren when I hear Europeans say that the US is far more racist.

Call us back when your minority employment figures are anywhere near ours. Last I read, the unemployment rate for young African immigrant minorities in France was at about 50% and at 20% for older age groups.

Can anyone say that the immigrant Turks are getting a fair shake in Germany?

Sorry guys, just because you smile nice to tourists from across the world, doesn't mean you treat your immigrant neighbors as well (unless of course they are also European.)

I give this thread a 9.3.

LOL, another complete fail

you are looking at the employment rate of an "integrated" population that is here since ... lot of years and you are comparing it to the very new black people that have no qualification, that are poor and may not even talk an european language ?

it is a joke right ?

what about the employment rate of the latinos in the US ? you know the ones that only talk spanish and do not have the same culture as YOU

what about them ?

Cute response, but when 25% of the French born, northern African decended, college graduates are unemployed you have a problem.  Studies have even been conducted where applications were submitted with similar degrees with the only real difference being the applicants name.  One had an ethic French name and the other North African and a greatly disproportionate amount of the time, the applicant with an African name, did not even get an interview or a call back.  So, is that part of your "unintegrated" population?  I consider domestic born college graduates to be pretty good citizens, don't you?

Well, it is hard to talk about nbrs from nowhere. Neverthless, I do agree that in France u have plenty of true racism when u want to get a job or an apartment. They have made studies on this. The only thing I want to point out is that there is plenty of people that fail at their studies and that dont get a job because they didnt make studies or/and they had serious druggs, violence problems.

Current US unemployement statistics put latino men at 12%, which is higher than the white male 9%, but no where near as disproportionate as French statistics.

I hope you realize that all these parameters are completely biased by the Afirmative Action itself. This means that it is not possible, in US, to look at the unemployement rate of each minorities and claim they are a reflect of the racism in US. Indeed, those statistics are just smokes and mirrors and do not allow us to judge the racism in the US.
Personnaly, I m not the one that come with the unemployement rate to claim my country was not racist.

I certainly dont contend that there is little racial discrimination in the US but the approach here is to attept to shrink that divide by acknoledging it's there.  France sticks its head in the sand and even refuses to collect racial data while discrimination against it's minorities is rife.

It is because WE prefer attack discrimination and racism itself by making it out law and not make it part of the law (Afirmative Action).