Scoobes said:
disolitude said:
Scoobes said:
disolitude said:
Umm...400 dollar today PC can not run games that are better looking than consoles.
I have a GTX295 video card and the damn thing alone cost me more than a PS3 would. Yes it runs Crysis maxed out at 30-40 frames per second and that looks better than any game on consoles...but my PC cost 1500 bucks to build.
If you want to run anything that totally blows away the consoles...you need to spend 1000 bucks at least. Hell, getting something middle of the road like a GTS250 or 4850 will put you in a hole 150 bucks...which is almost the price of the whole Xbox360 and it games won't look any better.
Try running Crysis Warhead on "Gamer" setting (don't even bother with enthusiast setting) with those cards and let me know how it turns out...
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Isn't the GTX295 known for being a bit overpriced (as well as very powerful). I thought you could get a near equivalent ATI card for a lot cheaper, which would also bring down the cost of your PC. Also, don't forget that for the price you also get a lot more functionality than just better graphics. It all depends on what you want. I know I couldn't survive without a PC, so it's convenient for me to use it for a lot of my games too.
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The ATI's equivalent card to that is 4870x2. You really can't find those for sale any more but if you do...they will be about 500 bucks.
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=222278827&vpn=EAH4870X2%2FHTDI%2F2G%2FA&manufacture=ASUS%20TeK
There really isn't a cheap option. Games that are developped for consoles and Pc at the same time are more sensible...and can be enjoyed with lesser video graphics hardware...but those PC games don't blow away the console ports in visuals unless they are played on very high settings, which low end video cards can't do. Games that do showcase PC superiority...like Crysis, Metro 2033...unless you spend 300 bucks on the video card alone, forget it. A graphics card under 150 bucks won't be able to run Metro 2033 at its lowest settings at 30 frames per second @ 720p. Frame rate will be in the low 20s and that is pretty unplayable in my eyes. And I can guarantee you that the 360 version of Metro 2033 looks better than a PC version running on ATI4650 or 9600GT video cards.
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I haven't played Metro 2033 so I can't comment on that particular case, but my experience of multiplat games on my 8800GTS is that they tend to look better than there console equivalent. Even the games that use the same textures, I can usually up the AA and AF to higher than on the consoles. As for Crysis, I can run it 720P with most effects on high, some on medium and get a frame rate of about 30fps. It dips below 25 every now and then but it's still more impressive than anything on consoles currently.
Note that I'm running under DX9 with Windows XP. I haven't upgraded yet because I know Vista and Win 7 take up far more resources.
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Pretty much the exact same situation as me. I bought a 8800 GTS about 30 months ago for $360. I also stuck with XP and get better performance at higher settings than the console versions. A bit annoying being stuck with DX9, but I'm planning a new build for sometime this year.
