Sony might not make a PS4?

[Alby_da_Wolf]

nightsurge said:

joeorc said:

nightsurge said:

joeorc said:

nightsurge said:

WarmachineX said:
its 2 strikes and your out in the gaming biz. If sony does poorly with the next one they're gone. I also EXTREMELY doubt the ps3 will be around as long as the ps2 for 2 reasons: technology is way better than it was then so its easier to whip out a new one and second, the ps2 was extremely successful, the ps3 was a flop.

This.  I wouldn't call the PS3 a flop though, as it has sold more than any last place console so far.  I would merely say that the 10 year plan only applies if you have the leading console in sales.  It's the retailers that control the lifespan of the consoles.  If they can still sell tons of software without sacrificing shelf space, they'll do it.  This is why they keep the top console from the previous gen for a few years into the new generation, because it has the most software selling potential.

 

that's not true In my opinion at all. you would not have to be #1 to get support for 10 year's for a product.

the fact that the Company such as Sony does support their hardware over time even if the hardware in the market is not # 1.

anyway

"it's the demand for the system" that will keep it on the shelf.  If the system is still in high demand than it will still keep selling! the PS3 may be the last place system, but that demand for the playstation 3 has increased.

the other factor is it's not even at a Low price yet. even when the new system's get released, the demand for the PS3 would have to dry up to the point that the store's could no longer sell the system. in my opinion the PS3 is no way near trending to that point. Nor do i see it trending anywhere near that even in the next couple of year's.

Actually it is the retailers.  I'll go into more detail:

Retailers have space for only a certain amount of consoles, handhelds, and all their games.  When new hardware comes out, it usually takes over the space of the predecessor (maybe not the whole space right away, but after a year or so it completely takes over).  This is because there is not enough space to keep the old consoles and games along with the new ones.  Retailers tend to keep the top selling console from the previous gen in order to continue to maximize on software sales.  This is because the new consoles will not be selling as much software for the first year or 2 until the install base increases.

There is simply not enough shelf space to support keeping 2 or 3 more consoles at retail.  It doesn't matter how long Sony or MS or Nintendo pledge to support their consoles as the retailers are the ones that will decide and with the Wii being both the top seller and the top software seller, it is likely to be the only one kept on more than a year or 2 after the next generation starts.

even if they take shelf space the fact is if the consumer "damand's" more of the product store's will not put the product that's in demand less shelf space. what your trying to do is paint that the PS3 not being in first place has to be the #1 spot to get that demand for the stores to keep its shelf space viable. and that was exactly what was stated back in 2007 and 2008 that demand for the PS3 would further erode it's shelf space. which here we are at 2010 and the PS3 has just as much shelf space if not more now.

the demand for the PS3 has increased not slowed!

Do you think the demand for the PS3 is going to vastly shrink in the next couple of year's? when the PS3's price is yet to be at the sub $200.00 sales sku. we have no I dea how it would go in the next couple of year's, but for my guess I see no trend of the PS3's demand drying up where it would start to sell less and less software, not the way the 1st party and 2nd party have been putting out quality Game's for the PS3.

The consumer demands the Wii the most, therefore it is the one that the retailers will keep.  The demand for the others will slow down drastically after their successors release.  It doesn't matter about the rest.  The shelf space just won't allow for it and the retailers will decide to go with the newer consoles because the future software will be higher.  Again, only the Wii stands a chance at lasting more than a year or 2 after next gen starts.

10 year plan is just puffery.

Being first when next gen begins will without any doubt matter and the first of this gen will be the best treated when next gen starts. But having a big user base will matter too, if all three consoles will have user bases big enough and if SW houses will keep on supporting them, they all could continue to receive shelf space by retailers.

Even with the crisis, this gen will most probably be bigger than any previous one, Wii will most probably beat PS2 even having a smaller share and the third will most probably sell more than 2nd and 3st of last gen put together, so retailers could find profitable to still give them shelf space. Obviously Wii, if Nintendo doesn't decide to kill it as soon as Zii is released, will receive more space, most likely.