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lestatdark said:
weaveworld said:
perpride said:
@letstat - It's all about learning to appreciate the change. I've been a LONG TIME fan of the series. The first time I played was almost two decades ago. Every single game makes huge changes and I welcome these changes 99% of the time.

For me, the battle system is a huge part of any JRPG. Final Fantasy is amazing because they are constantly innovating in this department. This is also the reason I regard FFXIII and XII as two of the best games in the series.

Here's two of the reasons ppl hate FFXIII:

1 - Not a PS3 exclusive. It seriously bothers PS3 fanboys to see such amazing sales for a game that was supposed to be exclusive. Honestly, half the hype for this game turned into hate before it even released.

2 - Not Nintendo exclusive. Believe it or not, there are still nintendo fanboys that are bitter about the fact that Final Fantasy moved onto different platforms. You can spot these people very easily: they think the series sold out after VII.

what I find weird with Final Fantasy is how passionately people hate it. I mean, when a person doesn't like a game, they usually just don't play it. With FFXIII, it seems people will go out of their way just to troll the game. Look at Rhada's signature for reference. It's like they feel the need to express their hate at every possible moment.

I've been a 'long' term fan myself, and the new iterations still don't give me the same kind of 'satisfaction' the older games gave me. Be it the lack of sidequests, the focus on graphical orgasms, the lack of minigames or the lack of... lets call it the x-factor.

I won't hate on any Final Fantasy yet but still FF13 hasn't given me the emotions while playing the 'others' (VI, VII, VIII etc.) gave me. There IS something different, and i do not mind innovation, but i do mind simplification. Sure, try to cater to a new audience, but do not defend a series that is trying something new and make everyone who dislikes it a 'moron' with your two statements. I've seen lots of reasonable arguments why 13 just isn't all that and they have nothing to do with your summary.

The thing about the aparent simplification of FF in FFXIII has no right to be so. 

I'm not saying that the simplification isn't there, but it was already there on FFX, and on FFXII they brought back a much higher level of complexity. That's typical of the FF main series, as it fluctuates along each new game.

The same also happened with previous FFs. In terms of complexity, one can say that FFV was utterly more complex than FFVI, yet that didn't mean that it would stay the same for the next FF games. One cannot simply look into one game on the FF series and then create elations for the future of the series, because it's always changing. 

You are right in the fact that it is always changing. But by simplification is not just ment(?sp) the toughness of battles. It is a mere statement of not having to search for answers/characters/storyline/sidequests. It might include the easiness of finishing the last battle which hasn't been a pain since FFVIII/IX... to me at least.

One should understand the so called hatred toward a series that is trying to change/innovate. The question is whether the change is made for the purpose of being innovative or merely to cater to a broader audience which seems very likely within the FF franchise nowadays... to me again at least.

Hell, ask the people in Greece whether they like the change that is brought upon them