Final Fantasy - What Went RIGHT?!! (A thread to UNITE all FF Fans)!

[dtewi]

g-value said:

dtewi said:

@g-value

No, he doesn't have it worse.

Hope had far less to complain about, even with that stuff.

The characters I listed, they're sense of identity were stripped from them, and they realize they've been lving their entire life a lie.

At least with the l'Cie brand they could hide it like at Nautilus and still live normally. And don't give me the "Oh, I'll become a Cie'th" crap since they knew that when crystallized they'd wake up.

Look at Vivi, he had a lot more to complain about.

He was engineered, he realized that his life didn't mean anything on the cargo ship, he only had months to live, and his grandpa died.

Don't you think Vivi had it a LITTLE BIT worse?

They only found that out during the end of chapter 7 (after Hope changed).

Also, no. I don't think Vivi had it worse. Everybody in the world wanted to kill Hope & the rest of the party. They were being treated as if they were no longer human. They have been taught all of their lives that L'Cie aren't humans. Does that not fall under the "idenitiy stripped" category? Also, what do you mean "they could hide it like at Nautilus and still live normally"? They were living on borrowed time. They could never live normally knowing that at anytime, they would become a Cie'th, a monster. So, knowing all of this, lets add up the reasons why Hope had a good reason to act the way he acted during almost the first half of the game.

1.) His mother got killed because of Snow's influence

2.) He became a L'Cie, "Enemy of Cocoon", a thought to be non-human, because of someone else's actions

3.) The whole world was out for his head

4.) If he doesn't complete his focus, he will become a Cie'th (a monster). And even if he did manage to complete it, he would become a crystal (and at the time when he was "whining", he didn't know that he would eventually reawaken from it, nobody did except for Fang & Vanille).

5.) He is dealing with all of this and he is only 14 YEARS OLD.

Now, you know Vivi had most of these things as well?

1) His grandpa died

2) He wasn't human either

3) Black mages were made for war and he was thought of as something used only for war and feared

4) Black mages only have a life span of a year, and he was already six months old. And he had NO chance of returning like Hope.

5) He had the personality of a 9 YEAR OLD

So, would you still say Hope had it worse.