Nintendo: Battle with Sony already won, Apple is the enemy of the future

[Mazty]

jarrod said:

Mazty said:

"Better" has absolutely no link to market sales, that is where you are going completely wrong. Sales are sales and mean nothing about a game being good or not. If that is the case, then you think that the Micra is a better car than a Bently because of sales. That is ludicrous.

"Traditional" i.e. least innovative. Yes the Wii has been wildly successful because it is accessible, but to an entirely different market than the other two consoles, and for different reasons to the same audience that may buy a wii or an iphone. The wii is an easy christmas present for the kids, whereas the iphone and Mac products are fashionable accesories for anyone, not just the kids, a bored wife or nostalgic gamers.

Nintendo seeing Apple as the enemy is like Microsoft seeing AMD as the enemy. Same basic market, but two completely different products aimed at the same people but for totally different reasons.

"Better" can certainly be linked to market performance.  Which I was doing, talking about what the market thinks is "better".  "Ludicrous" would be your heavy handed and completely irrelevant car analogy. ;)

Also, in terms of design I wouldn't say Wii Sports or Wii Play is honestly all that innovative.  All that's changed from game designs near 2 decades old is character creation and interface.  I mean, is Wii Play really more "innovative" than something like Uncharted 2?

Trying to dismiss Wii as gift-for-kids platform is funny, given it's average age of ownership is actually higher than PS3 or 360.  "Nintendo is kiddie" will probably never die, even when they have more significantly adults using their platforms than the competition.

And your Nintendo/Apple to Microsoft/AMD analogy is also wildly off.  If anything, I'd argue Microsoft seeing PlayStation as "the enemy" is more in tune with what Iwata (purportedly) sees in their future against Apple..

No, what is rediculous is your god awful clarity in what you are saying. What you mean to say is some wii games have PERFORMED better in terms of sales, otherwise all you are saying is the only thing that has to be considered to determine somethings relative merit is sales. Clearly that is blatant bull**** otherwise you are saying that if a craptastic game was bundled with the 360 from launch for each console sold, it's automatically better than anything other 360 game. All you are saying is better = sales, so don't be lazy and write better sales performance. Please say how the car analogy is flawed, or just trolling?

Give me a game that comes close to the cinematic action of the Uncharted series. The only game that it is similar to is Tomb Raider, and that was just dungeon running with a pair of pixellated titties on screen.

You say it's funny that I say the Wii is for kids, but tell me this: who play on it more/for more than once in a blue moon, kids or adults? The fact that Nintendo said the wii isn't for the hardcore is enough evidence that a sane person needs to reason that the wii is for kids/very casual gamers i.e. people who play it once a week if that.

Does Microsoft make a HD game console? Yes.
Does Sony make a HD game console? Yes.
Therefore it makes sense that the two companies are in competition with one another as they are producing a very simlar product.

Does Nintendo make a game console? Yes.
Does Apple make any kind of game console or portable game console? No.
Are there any plans on them making a game console? None that we know of.
So how the flying **** are Nintendo seeing Apple as a rival? Apple make PC's, laptops and phones. Nintendo ONLY makes game consoles. The only way they could be seen as rivals are that they both make electronics, but that's such a loose comparison it's worthless.

You are making no sense at the moment. Nintendo = games only. Apple = Apple products, none of which are a game console.