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Kantor said:
Mr.Y said:

I think you need to follow your thread back up to the top, you know the whole part about starting wars for oil and controling the media. But who knows, they might be real swell fellows deep down, if only they'd open up and let us get to know them better.

And I mean, if they're doin gods work, let'em get'er done, amirite?

They won't need to start wars for oil if they control all of the world's oil. Don't give Bush credit. He wasn't a Satanist (or Deist if you will) who wanted to control the world. He was just an idiot. And I don't see how Bush and Obama can both be Illuminati when they are political opposites.

As for controlling the media....what exactly is wrong with this? I don't exactly see "BOW DOWN TO THE ILLUMINATI" on the front of my newspaper, nothing even suggests their existence, or their lack of existence. Different newspapers have different opinions, so does the head Illuminatus have schizophrenia?

Look, I'm not saying they don't exist. They're probably a bunch of people in a basement in the Mid-West who drink blood and draw pentacles with chalk. I'm just saying they don't control America, they don't control the media, they don't have any power or any say in anything, and generally nobody should care about them.

Also, that Jordan Maxwell site is hilariously awful. It reaches at straws for pretty much everything- except that Lincoln and Kennedy thing, which was pretty interesting. I would guess that Oswald tried to base it on Booth's murder of Lincoln, but we don't immediately have to scream SEE SEE SEE AN EVIL DEVIL-WORSHIPPING SOCIETY CONTROLS THE WORLD, AND THEY'RE GOING TO... they're going to... do something.

I don't see why anyone secretly trying to control the world would advertise it in newspapers...

Differing opinions aren't that important. Framing the discussion is more important.