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Yakuzaice on 09 May 2010
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Lord Flashheart said:
Yakuzaice said:

MikeB was banned for an unrelated post, so arguing with him would be quite the waste of time (not that this isn't).  The whole argument of development times was his.  My issue was your complaint that Uncharted 2 had some sort of advantage due to being a sequel.  Instead of the logical shift to looking at the original, you decide to make the leap to GT5 a game that hasn't even been released.  How would that make a good comparison?

Once again, you had brought up Gears in some attempt to prove that 360 games don't all take 5 years.  I never said anything about them taking that long.  I didn't even mention any 360 games in my original post.  Yet you felt the need to inform me in the very first line of your response that Gears 1 and 2 did not take 5 years to develop.  Why?

4. I never said they all took that long. I've asked you who said that but you can't answer that because no-one did. It was a silly unfounded comment that you can't take back. I informed you GoW 1 and 2 didn't take 5 years because  you informed me poorly that Jak 3 & 4 took how ever many years which I later found out when you finally explained your point was brought up to show naughty dog, a studio bigger than remedy had been working on other games. If you had said that in your first post I would have pointed out that, like your Jak comment, was not needed here.

5. You have misunderstood but continued down this path and got even more confused. If your point was U2 didn't have an advantage then why couldn't you say that? Why does it take you several post later to explain yourself? His comment was completely not needed in the discussion but as he bought it up and I wanted it to be fairer you seem to have a problem with that and not the fact dev times meant nothing. You wanted to back him up for some reason?

You are right. This has been pointless for me but maybe you'll understand several post later. /amazed at this

I'm not even going to bother with the first 3 points because you still don't seem to understand I don't care about the development time comparison.  I was just explaining how Uncharted 1 satisfies your issue with using Uncharted 2 as a comparison.

4. My entire point was you were fighting shadows with your comment about Gears.  How can I tell you who said something when I felt your point was completely irrelevent and was a response to nobody?  Seriously, you say you brought up Gears because I outlined Naughty Dog's release schedule before the first Uncharted.  Why?  What does Gears have to do with anything?

5. Let's look at how this conversation went.  I made a short comment about how the development of the first Uncharted was almost identical to the second despite not being a sequel.  A quality that you had stated contributed to a shorter development time.  Then in response to this you make a completely dijointed post trying to transform this into some sort of system war (which admittedly might have been MikeB and Selnor's intent as well) rather than a comparison between two individual games.  I respond asking what Gears, God of War, GT5, and Heavy Rain have to do with the development times of Alan Wake and Uncharted, and you pretty much say "well MikeB is trolling so why can't I".

So I suppose your point is you were trolling and it was a waste of time commenting on the fallacy that being a sequel shortened Uncharted 2's development time.  Gotcha'

 

Though I will commend you for shortening the quote tree, I had meant to do that earlier.