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Yakuzaice said:

MikeB was banned for an unrelated post, so arguing with him would be quite the waste of time (not that this isn't).  The whole argument of development times was his.  My issue was your complaint that Uncharted 2 had some sort of advantage due to being a sequel.  Instead of the logical shift to looking at the original, you decide to make the leap to GT5 a game that hasn't even been released.  How would that make a good comparison?

Once again, you had brought up Gears in some attempt to prove that 360 games don't all take 5 years.  I never said anything about them taking that long.  I didn't even mention any 360 games in my original post.  Yet you felt the need to inform me in the very first line of your response that Gears 1 and 2 did not take 5 years to develop.  Why?

Several things
1. the issue about development was his and I thought it was an unfair comparison.

2. I never said U2 had an advantage. It was pointless because it wasn't like for like. U2 did continue the ground work from U1 so why not use that? Same dev time right so in your eyes slightly fairer but still unrelated to the discussion.

3. GT5 has been in dev for the longest on the PS3 so if people are going to compare dev times then as AW has the longest on 360 use the longest on PS3. Makes sense right. Of course the whole point of dev times has no merit but he bought it up so it was only fair for me to point out it should be like for like. Game A looks good on console A, unrelated game B looks good on unrelated console B. But game B took less time to make. Erm, so what? but that's was the avenue he went down. If you have issues with me am I not allowed to have issues with him?

4. I never said they all took that long. I've asked you who said that but you can't answer that because no-one did. It was a silly unfounded comment that you can't take back. I informed you GoW 1 and 2 didn't take 5 years because  you informed me poorly that Jak 3 & 4 took how ever many years which I later found out when you finally explained your point was brought up to show naughty dog, a studio bigger than remedy had been working on other games. If you had said that in your first post I would have pointed out that, like your Jak comment, was not needed here.

5. You have misunderstood but continued down this path and got even more confused. If your point was U2 didn't have an advantage then why couldn't you say that? Why does it take you several post later to explain yourself? His comment was completely not needed in the discussion but as he bought it up and I wanted it to be fairer you seem to have a problem with that and not the fact dev times meant nothing. You wanted to back him up for some reason?

You are right. This has been pointless for me but maybe you'll understand several post later. /amazed at this