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Yakuzaice said:
Lord Flashheart said:
Yakuzaice said:
Lord Flashheart said:

So he can bring up other games to make unfair comparisons.

I understand.

I can't do the same or ask he uses a game with a comparable dev time?

I understand. I'm in the wrong.

MikeB didn't first bring up Uncharted 2, the article and Selnor did.  The development time tangent was somewhat odd, but your comment didn't make any more sense.  You complained that using a sequel was unfair, and yet ignored the original game.  Then you brought up Gears for no apparent reason.  Nobody said that every 360 game takes 5 years.  You might have had a point if Remedy had done Gears and Naughty Dog had done Gran Turismo 5.  The discussion was comparing the graphics of Uncharted 2 and Alan Wake, and thus the talent Naughty Dog and Remedy have with working on their respective systems.

You brought up Jak 3 and X so I bought up two games that didn't take long to release. Why did you bring them up?

Selnor never mentioned dev times for U2. MikeB did and it was out of place. If he wants to make comapirsons on dev times he should pick more comparable games. How is that difficult to understand? I didn't ignore the first one. I mentioned it in the first post? I don't have someone else who hasn't read the whole conversation have I? the discussion I was in was about dev times as started by MikeB so have a go at him?Who implied that every 360 game takes 5 years?

have you actually read the replies or just skimmed them? Again what is your point?

/exasterbated

Hmm, that's a tough one.  Maybe because we were talking about Uncharted and I was giving a timeline of Naughty Dog's releases before the first Uncharted game came out?

The only thing you mentioned about Uncharted 1 was that Uncharted 2 benefited due to work put into the first game.  Then you disregarded it as an example of development time for a game that wasn't a sequel.  You acted as if the only reason there was a two year development time was because it was a sequel, and then brought up Gears of War, GT5, and God of War when I commented that the first Uncharted was developed in a similar amount of time.

Are you reading the posts?  I said that his development time tangent was odd, but it still stemmed from the original comparison between Alan Wake and Uncharted 2.  You brought up Gears of War as an example of a 360 game that didn't take 5 years, so clearly you felt you had to assault some notion that 360 games all took 5 years.

If you had explained yourself like that it would have made sense but you didn't.
Anyway it is an unfair comparison. Why does it matter how long AW took to make or U2? How does the fact U2 took less time impact AW? That was the issue I and others had with him. What does the dev time for both games have to do with anything?

What does the timeline of naughty dog have to do with anything? or remedy? I bought up GT5 before you came into this. It suits whatever point MikeB was trying to make better than U2. Who did I assault? Again where did this notion that all 360 games take 5 years come from? Seriously where are you getting all this from? Why can't you answer my questions? you just (finally) clarified some of the points you made avoiding the issue. Why aren't you having (or assaulting) a go at MikeB over this. I asked a legitimate question to him and you jumped in sticking up for him.